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Old 06-09-2011, 11:15 AM
 
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No their not! One, the male, has to pay out of his pocket or go to jail. The other, the woman, can get federal assistance and federally funded abortions. So who is the responsible one again?

Yes because we all know being a single mom is like hitting the lotto


Can you base your answers in Reality for ONCE?
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Old 06-09-2011, 11:17 AM
 
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Yes because we all know being a single mom is like hitting the lotto


Can you base your answers in Reality for ONCE?
This IS reality if you like to acknowledge it or not. You said both were responsible. I debunked that for you since you are incapable of logical thought processes. Who is responsible again? Do you want me to tell you? The MAN and THE TAX PAYER! Where does the female come in again? We are talking FINANCIAL responsibility here.
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Old 06-09-2011, 11:19 AM
 
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This IS reality if you like to acknowledge it or not. You said both were responsible. I debunked that for you since you are incapable of logical thought processes. Who is responsible again? Do you want me to tell you? The MAN and THE TAX PAYER! Where does the female come in again? We are talking FINANCIAL responsibility here.

And what tax payer funded program pays for 18 years of childcare?
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Old 06-09-2011, 11:24 AM
 
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[quote=Rita Mordio;19515640]I don't see why it couldn't eventually be science non-fiction. We already have the ability to remove eggs from a fertile woman, fertilize it in a dish, and implant the results into a less-than-fertile female. At one point, the thought of invitro was some "crazy sci-fi fantasy" that infertile couples dreamed of.

While I am a fervent proponent of a woman's right to choose, I am just as troubled by abortion which is why I describe myself as a pro-choice opponent of abortion, but frankly your idea, at least to me, is stunningly brilliant.

Instead of abortion, harvesting the embryos so that they can be implanted into women who wish to have children or their surrogates. Sort of like an organ donation program. It, at least to my way of thinking solves several issues at once, it removes the psychological barriers to carrying a child to term for the purpose of adoption, and most importantly it takes abortion off the table.

Frankly, I think it is pure genius.
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Old 06-09-2011, 11:29 AM
 
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Thats not the premise of this thread.
If you wanna beat that dead horse, go dig up one of the gabillion threads that are already debating that.
Actually, since the point was brought up that men do have a choice (to use a condom, get a vasectomy, etc.) like here: https://www.city-data.com/forum/19514589-post3.html; the rebuttal is valid.
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Old 06-09-2011, 11:29 AM
 
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Still waiting on that government program that pays women for 18 years of childcare.....
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Old 06-09-2011, 11:30 AM
 
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Oh, well my praise for Rita was premature. While the ideas is brilliant from what I have read subsequently, the biological possibility actually performing such a transplant is decades away if not centuries. But it was a cool thought.
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Old 06-09-2011, 11:31 AM
 
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And what tax payer funded program pays for 18 years of childcare?
There are a few. I would think you would know about them.
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Old 06-09-2011, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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If a female doesn't want the responsibility/financial stress that goes along with parenthood, she can get an abortion and never look back. Even if the male wants to keep the baby, the female has the power to get an abortion.

So why do the males get no say? If a female can just walk away from the responsibility if she doesn't want a baby, a male should be able to do the same thing.

If the female wants to keep the baby but the male doesn't, the male gets stuck paying child support.

In both examples, one parent wants to keep the baby. So why does the male get stuck paying for a baby he doesn't want?

Of course the male can't get an abortion. But I don't think the male should need to pay child support for a baby he doesn't want.

Sure, you might be thinking "The male helped create the baby. If the female wants to keep it, the male should pay"

But it takes two to tango. Both parents played an equal role in creating the baby. So if the male can't force the female to pay, why should the female be able to force the male to pay?

By the way, I am pro-choice. I support abortion and I don't see anything wrong with a female getting an abortion if she doesn't want to pay for a baby. But if a male doesn't want to pay for a baby, he shouldn't need to either.

Abortion isn't like slicing off the tip of your index finger. Abortion is a gut wrenching decision for most women.

There's a fertilized egg, and then there is a baby. I can't say I agree that both parents played an equal part in creating a baby. A fertized egg, most likely, unless she was raped. A baby involves a swollen belly and bigger bras and morning puking and midnight cravings and something kicking you awake at 3 A.M. and having to pee all the time.

This is while the dude is eating a sandwich and sayin', "Woah, your boobs got bigger."
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Old 06-09-2011, 11:32 AM
 
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Oh, well my praise for Rita was premature. While the ideas is brilliant from what I have read subsequently, the biological possibility actually performing such a transplant is decades away if not centuries. But it was a cool thought.
I really don't think so.

We have thousands in Foster care so its not like lack of babies is the problem.
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