Why do the males get no say? (spend, considered, places)
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Um, what about B/C? Why is it so much of an issue? If abortion were illegal, I would agree with you. But it's not. The woman is given all the power and choice with regard to having a baby or not. With that, comes responsibility. In this situation, I support not only the right to an abortion, but would encourage it. Raising a child alone is incredibly difficult.
Can you not see the difference between a married couple or a LTR where the couple makes a choice to have a child, and the father skips, as opposed to a one-night roll in the hay?
I am pro choice as well, however not all women want to have an abortion if they become pregnant. a woman should not be forced to have an abortion if she doesn't want one. there are plenty of women who take a pregnancy reluctantly to term. should the man be let out of responsibility because a woman doesn't end a pregnancy?
the situation may be different between a LTR and a one night stand but the child that results from either still deserves and is required by law to be supported.
I am pro choice as well, however not all women want to have an abortion if they become pregnant. a woman should not be forced to have an abortion if she doesn't want one. there are plenty of women who take a pregnancy reluctantly to term..
If a woman shouldn't be "forced to have an abortion if she doesn't want one", why should a man be forced to pay support for a child he does not want? He is given no choice. Lets flip the situation around, say the man wants the child, and the woman wants to end the pregnancy. Should he (or rather the courts) be able to force her to have the child so he can adopt it once born? If you think it's unfair for a man to be able to force a woman to carry an unwanted pregnancy for 9 months, how is it fair for a woman to force him to provide child support for 18+ years?
Last edited by Toyman at Jewel Lake; 06-09-2011 at 02:10 PM..
so a man doesn't have choice in if he uses birth control or not when he has relations with a woman. are men so stupid they don't know they may have a pregnancy if they don't try to prevent it? so many people are against abortion, now you want to punish the woman for not believing or not having the ability to go through with an abortion? I guess the bitter pill is the woman's she is damned if she does and damned if she doesn't, and as usual the man can wash his hands of it all.
Didn't say that. BOTH partners have equal responsibility. The only difference is that a woman, once pregnant, now has the fate of BOTH parties in HER hands (or should I say uterus).
There are many women that "trick" guys into a pregnancy to keep them (tampering with condoms comes to mind). If a guy has sex w/o a condom, then he's taking the risk of being on the hook. Doesn't mean I agree with it. If a woman has a choice, after a pregnancy occurs, so should men.
There are some bone-headed men who get so desperate about the dark hole of child support that they KILL the woman in order to avoid it.
And there are some women who are down right evil and calculating about using their children as pawns to get money. Just how many would opt for a college education instead if they knew they couldn't trap a financially-viable guy?
50 Cents' song "Have A Baby By Me and Be A Millionnaire" has a LOT of truth in it.
If a woman shouldn't be "forced to have an abortion if she doesn't want one", why should a man be forced to pay support for a child he does not want?
Because the law has decided that the child should not be punished for the parents' mistake. There are two solutions for any man who wants to make sure he doesn't get roped into fathering a child he doesn't want to support. Get a vasectomy, or keep the ding-a-ling in the pants.
If he doesn't want to pay, he can spend 50% of the time raising the child instead. He's got plenty of choices.
Honestly, I do believe a father should be allowed to "abort" his parental responsibilities if he so chooses,on nthe agreement that he never gets them back, doesn't have visitation rights, survivorship rights, or any of that.
However, the pure point is: The man can't carry the baby. The woman must go through the 9 months of pure hell.
For that reason alone, her word holds more weight than the male's.
once more with feeling. your above argument is only for the man.
women who play should not have to pay?
women do "pay" the are pregnant for 9 months, go through labor and delivery and a good deal of them raise the child with out any help from the father. so the woman does have a price to pay.
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