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The state of Hawaii has his birth certificate, it's posted widely on the internet, and even Boehner says Obama is a US citizen. Trump just cost himself the election before he even started from showing he's a birther nutcase.
ETA: In looking at the Illinois Vital Records website, I see that you can indeed order your long form. My birth state of Pennsylvania does not offer this option. I would rather you'd provided a bit of proof rather than just a declaration, but I can see that I was wrong in the case of Illinois.
Last edited by Emeraldmaiden; 03-29-2011 at 09:58 PM..
When you go to the court of clerk and ask for a copy of a BC from the 1800's, do they laser print you a short form too?
Point BEING that Obama has a long form.
He needs to SHOW IT.
He can't show it. Because then everyone will know that he is a FRAUD. He's golden as long as he can withstand the [thus far] very minimal pressure for him to provide proof of eligibility. And even if the Supreme Court ruled that he needed to provide proof, he would delay, delay, delay using his administration sheep. Even if Obama acknowledged that he was a fraud, who would remove him if he refused to step-down? He knows he's golden until the 2012 election as long as states are individually and absolutely required to confirm his eligibility if he runs again. Then he's caught...or he'll run away from it by not seeking re-election.
How can he be hiding something when he released his LEGAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE. All of the records in Hawaii are kept digitally on computer. I needed a new copy of my birth certificate since the original was lost, so I contacted the NY State Vital Records Department. Guess what, they issued a short form that was printed on a Computer. They do not issue the long form, and you know what, its get this LEGAL.
Did you ask for a copy of your long form?
You lost your original or the state of NY lost your original?
Are you implying that all long forms were discarded after being scanned in to a system from which short forms are originated from?
ETA: In looking at the Illinois Vital Records website, I see that you can indeed order your long form. My birth state of Pennsylvania does not offer this option. I would rather you'd provided a bit of proof rather than just a declaration, but I can see that I was wrong in the case of Illinois.
I don't know why every state does not give people the option. I think it is within every person's rights to get a certified photo copy of the original.
You lost your original or the state of NY lost your original?
Are you implying that all long forms were discarded after being scanned in to a system from which short forms are originated from?
No archiving of originals?
I lost the original, I applied to the state for a new birth certificate. They do not give you an option of a long or short form, you just get to request a copy and that is what they send you.
I don't know why every state does not give people the option. I think it is within every person's rights to get a certified photo copy of the original.
I was just at the Hawaii Vital Records website, and they do not offer the long-form option, either. Here's the application form (PDF). You will see that there is no option for what certificate you get.
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