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The only thing that I find odd about the whole
birther thing, is why doesn't Obama have any
document dated pre 2007. It just seems odd
to me.
i'm not sure what you're asking here. do you mean any birth record pre-2007 ( of which i'd point to the birth data index, the contemporaneous newspaper accounts and dr fukino's statement ) or do you mean any document dated pre 2007?
That's a stretch - what president has not been forthcoming
with their records?
Bush (both of them)
McCain (even though he was a candidate he was put under scrutiny as well, but he released nothing)
Eisenhower (during his campaign and presidency he didn't offer any documents - he only received his birth certificate AFTER his presidency)
Kennedy
Carter
Reagan
Nixon
heck the 42 Presidents before Obama
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The social security number: okay it's a typo - should not
have been CT, but HI. Someone typed a 0 instead of
a 9.
Thank you for aknowledgeing that this is one of many reasons why he would have received a CT based SSN. Instead of the nonsense claims of fraud, stolen, SSN's by birthers.
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You know, I never paid attention to Obama much. I
didn't vote for him. I was more concerned with Bush's
policies, and just hoping McCain/Palin didn't get elected.
I'm from Hawaii (lived there for 31 years), never heard of him until 2004
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So, this birther stuff is new to me. But sure seems like
a lot of mistakes on records, for a guy his age.
What mistakes in "his records"?
The only "mistake" was something he wasn't RESPONSIBLE for. The issuance an SSN is wholly on the SSA.
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This for instance:
Saw a copy of his selective service card on the internet.
Just wondering why it's signed on the 30th of June 1980,
but it was stamped June 29, 1980. Did they stamp
it a day before he came in It also has the no I.D. box
checked. Or is this a fraudulent document too, doctored up by someone on the internet, or is it even his?
Actually, it could have been that (he submitted it down at the government office, they asked him to sign it after they affirmed it). Or he simply signed it with the wrong date? I've done that before as well. Doesn't indicate any fraud on his part.
Why don't you contact the Selective Service Department to find out?
The person that comes to mind to me, is Geraldine
Ferraro and questions about her husband's finances.
It dominated the campaign. She did finally release
her husband's info.
Her husband pleaded guilty in January 1985, to fraudulently obtaining bank financing in a real estate transaction and had been sentenced to 150 hours of community service.
Ferraro said her husband never would have been charged had she not run for vice president.
The notion that Obama is the only one under this
type of scrutiny is plain wrong. Fairly, or unfairly,
when folks start asking questions publicly, they
want answers, whether they are entitled to them
or not. That's the media society/now internet world
we live in.
Well, obviously there was some substance to the questions about Ferrarro's husband. The fact that he was convicted of fraud says he was guilty. Maybe his fraud wouldn't have come to light if she hadn't been nominated. Did he post this stuff on the internet for every bozo to see, or did he release the information to authorities under subpoena? I really don't remember this being such a big issue. Probably the Alzheimer's.
but for the birther's belief that the SS# isn't valid would require that the current social security administration is involved in the fraud. do you agree?
The person that comes to mind to me, is Geraldine
Ferraro and questions about her husband's finances.
It dominated the campaign. She did finally release
her husband's info.
Her husband pleaded guilty in January 1985, to fraudulently obtaining bank financing in a real estate transaction and had been sentenced to 150 hours of community service.
Ferraro said her husband never would have been charged had she not run for vice president.
The notion that Obama is the only one under this
type of scrutiny is plain wrong. Fairly, or unfairly,
when folks start asking questions publicly, they
want answers, whether they are entitled to them
or not. That's the media society/now internet world
we live in.
I remember this! He borrowed a large sum of money from the credit union I belonged to at the time. He paid it back in a short period, with interest, and it was a good deal financially for the credit union, but it was an improper loan for whatever reason.
i'm not sure what you're asking here. do you mean any birth record pre-2007 ( of which i'd point to the birth data index, the contemporaneous newspaper accounts and dr fukino's statement ) or do you mean any document dated pre 2007?
I mean a photocopy of a BC with a dated stamp, let's
say from sometime in the '60's or 70's, 80's, 90's or even early
2000's.
I thought that generated one floating on the internet was done in 2007. Seems a little late in life, to be getting your first copy of a birth certificate, IMO.
That's a stretch - what president has not been forthcoming
with their records?
here is a ( partial ) list of the records birthers commonly require from obama. can you name any president that has been forthcoming with any of these ( or similar documents ) ?
(1) the original, long-form 1961 Hawaiian birth certificate.
2) Marriage license between Obama’s father (Barak Sr.) and mother (Stanley Ann Dunham)
3) Obama’s baptism records
4) Obama’s adoption records
5) Records of Obama’s and his mother’s reptriation as US citizens on return from Indonesia
6) Name change (Barry Sotero to Barack Hussein Obama) records
7) Noelani Elementary School (Hawaii)
8) Punahou School financial aid or school records
9) Occidental College financial aid records
10) Columbia College records
11) Columbia senior thesis
12) Harvard Law School records
13) Obama’s law client list
14) Obama’s files from career as an Illinois State Senator
15) Obama’s record with Illinois State Bar Association
16) Obama’s medical records
17) Obama’s passport records
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