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But not all of the info required on application form DS-11 are listed on Obama's COLB. This is true of other states' short form COLBs, as well. Hence, the State Dept's warning that some short form birth record abstracts are not acceptable.
You mean that it asks for where the parents are born?? Just because it asks where your parents are born does not mean you need the information on your birth certificate. My birth certificate which is a certified copy from New York does not state where my parents were born, and they were both born in Queens.
Also, why didn't you include the full quote from the State Department's site?
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*A certified birth certificate has a registrar's raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar's signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar's office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.
Beginning April 1, 2011, all birth certificates must also include the full names of the applicant's parent(s). For more information, please see New Requirement for all U.S. Birth Certificates.
Note that starting two weeks ago birth certificates only require the name of the applicant's parents. Don't you think that if they also required their birth place they would have said so?
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Obama never showed a birth certificate, he showed only a COLB.
A COLB is a birth certificate, the only form that Hawaii has provided for many years now.
You mean that it asks for where the parents are born??
Yes.
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Just because it asks where your parents are born does not mean you need the information on your birth certificate.
Hmmm... Does that 'logic' apply to the other info required on the DS-11, as well? For example, just because it asks for the applicant's place of birth does not mean you need the info on your birth certificate? Think your reasoning will fly with the State Dept?
Yes.Hmmm... Does that 'logic' apply to the other info required on the DS-11, as well? For example, just because it asks for the applicant's place of birth does not mean you need the info on your birth certificate? Think your reasoning will fly with the State Dept?
Yes it would fly with the state dept because they release the exact information they require to be on your birth certificate, and where parents were born is not listed now is it?? In fact everything that is on the State Dept's website under birth certificate requirements is on Obama's birth certificate isn't it??
I don't know what to make of the whole argument... certificate of live birth vs. birth certificate, etc, etc... But I do have one honest to goodness question that I hope someone can answer for me....
The picture of his Certificate of Live Birth says "Barrack Obama II" on it. We all know he changed his name to Barrack later in life. So shouldn't his birth certificate say "Barry" or whatever his birth name was?
If I changed my name, my birth certificate (at least an original) would still say "Mark" on in it, right?
Does anyone know what the story is with this?
Gee I just don't know...here in Florida for a drivers license and/or state ID.....you need FOUR types of identification.....
One is a birth certificate....original social security card......etc...I assume you went through similar "hoops" to get your ID or driver's license.
No it isn't. If it were, that document wouldn't have a different name.
Patently false, and illegal, to boot. I've already quoted the Hawaiian state law, verbatim.
Different name doesn't mean anything. Under the law its the same
You have quoted the Hawaii state law, but you have made stuff up about the law. The law means if a birth record or death record, etc is requested they have to provide it, it doesn't mean the person making the request gets to choose the type of birth certificate or type of death certificate, etc. It simply means the state needs to supply a certified copy.
Yes it would fly with the state dept because they release the exact information they require to be on your birth certificate, and where parents were born is not listed now is it??
Then why is it required on form DS-11?
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apply to the other info required on the DS-11, as well? For example, just because it asks for the applicant's place of birth does not mean you need the info on your birth certificate? Think your reasoning will fly with the State Dept? 
