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Old 04-11-2011, 06:44 PM
 
Location: High Cotton
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She said both his parents weren't U.S. citizens, just the birth mother, who was too young to pass on her citizenship at the time, and dada was from KENYA. Both parents have to be citizens to be NATURAL BORN. Birth mom couldn't get rid of the kid fast enough, so she could get back to school and pursueing her communist agenda.
BTW do you know what country has the most muslims in it? Indonesia. Do you know where Barry went to school? Indonesia, during a time when Christians were not welcome, if not outright banned. When did he turn Christian, and why aren't the Islamists a bit uptight about that? hmmmm
They poo-poo that requirement entirely...and won't give it one ounce credibility.

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Old 04-11-2011, 06:47 PM
 
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They poo-poo that requirement entirely...and won't give it one ounce credibility.
Because it isn't true.
 
Old 04-11-2011, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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BHO, a most "transparent" man, has spent $$$$ to prevent his past from being scrutinized.
And that is fine!
Why should the people know anything about a man who occupies the office of president of the United States of America?
His piety and patriotism are not subject to review.
His disdain for national symbols are not germane to his performance.
His ability to persuade people to believe him, absent evidence, is remarkable.
His acumen at making decisions, standing firm, and holding fast to his campaign promises are - well - not important, right now.

All that matters, is that BHO gets re-elected, so that the task at hand be completed - the eradication of that pesky charter of negative liberties. Thus the People's Democratic Socialist Republic of America can arise!

Should he suddenly 'get religion', he might STAND UP, and inform the nation that:
(a) we've been under a state of emergency for 77 years,
(b) dollar bills are not dollars,
(c) the public debt can never be repaid,
(d) FICA/ SocSec is 100% voluntary - voluntary servitude, and
(e) the public debt cannot be questioned

References:
a) Emergency Powers Statutes, Senate Report SR 93-549, November 19, 1973
b) Title 12 USC Sec. 411, Coinage Act of 1792
c) 14 trillion computes to 700 billion ounces gold. World supply is only 5.3 billion ounces. Where's the gold lent to the US to substantiate the debt?
d) No law compels participation
e) see: sec.4, 14th amendment, USCON

Of course, BHO is too wise to divulge such tawdry facts to the masses, entranced by Snookie and Sports. Just sit back, open another beer (or wine cooler) and do not look 'behind the curtain' - - - the Great and Powerful OZ has spoken.

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Old 04-11-2011, 06:57 PM
 
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Both parents have to be citizens to be NATURAL BORN.
As has been pointed out on numerous occasions on numerous threads, there is nothing in either law or prevailing Supreme Court decisions which stipulate such a requirement. In point the only prevailing Supreme Court decision, United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898) indicates the contrary in that all that is required is that the child be born on U.S. soil.

I see they are now sending in the Z team having sent all the others off scurrying.
 
Old 04-11-2011, 06:59 PM
 
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This ridiculous scenario is why the founders HAD to include the "Natural Born Citizen" (both parents must be USA citizens) requirement. What part of this don't you understand?
The Framers were aware of Ghaddafi? How fortuitous of them.
 
Old 04-11-2011, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Originally Posted by claudhopper View Post
She said both his parents weren't U.S. citizens, just the birth mother, who was too young to pass on her citizenship at the time, and dada was from KENYA. Both parents have to be citizens to be NATURAL BORN. Birth mom couldn't get rid of the kid fast enough, so she could get back to school and pursueing her communist agenda.
BTW do you know what country has the most muslims in it? Indonesia. Do you know where Barry went to school? Indonesia, during a time when Christians were not welcome, if not outright banned. When did he turn Christian, and why aren't the Islamists a bit uptight about that? hmmmm
Uh, no, you are incorrect. The previous poster said, and I quote directly without altering anything:

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Nope! Not in the case of Obama. He is DIFFERENT because of his parents and his background. Aside from where he was born is the fact that Obama's parents were not U.S. citizens, which is a requirement to be POTUS. The man's POTUS eligibility questions are numerous...and his willingness to reveal even a tiny bit of his personal information, records or background is like a steel door slammed shut.
This is, in fact, a LIE.

There is no doubt that Obama's mother was a citizen fROM HER OWN BIRTH!

There was a law on the books at the time which said of a child born abroad (not in the US) of a US citizen parent (which Obama's mother certainly WAS) and a non-citizen (which his father was not, no dispute there) that the US citizen parent had to have lived in the US for 5 years after the age of 14. Since Obama's mother had not lived at all for 5 years after age 14, the birthers claim that means she was too young to confer citizenship on Obama. This in fact is untrue as he was born in the USA, but birthers like to think this law applied in the US as well. I also think it's really disgusting that you imply that Obama's mother somehow hastened his birth. Is there no level to which birthers won't stoop to vilify an 18 year old woman?

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She said both his parents weren't U.S. citizens, just the birth mother, who was too young to pass on her citizenship at the time, and dada was from KENYA. Both parents have to be citizens to be NATURAL BORN.
No, to be a natural born citizen you must be born in this country. The citizenship of the parents is irrelevant. There is no age requirement to pass along citizenship either.

Regarding the previous Gaddafi example, Gaddafi's hypothetical son born in the US would be a natural-born citizen under the constitution. However according to the 14th Amendment, his son would not count because of the phrase 'subject to the jurisdiction thereof" which was intended exclude children of foreign leaders and diplomats.

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Old 04-11-2011, 07:02 PM
 
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As has been pointed out on numerous occasions on numerous threads, there is nothing in either law or prevailing Supreme Court decisions which stipulate such a requirement. In point the only prevailing Supreme Court decision, United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898) indicates the contrary in that all that is required is that the child be born on U.S. soil.

I see they are now sending in the Z team having sent all the others off scurrying.
I wish the Supreme Court would rule on this so there's no question about it.

PS - I'd vote for Qaudaffi's son to be POTUS over Obama...
 
Old 04-11-2011, 07:03 PM
 
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I wish the Supreme Court would rule on this so there's no question about it.

PS - I'd vote for Qaudaffi's son to be POTUS over Obama...
For G*d's sake, the poster you quoted referenced a Supreme Court decision! You birthers simply don't want to believe it.
 
Old 04-11-2011, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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For G*d's sake, the poster you quoted referenced a Supreme Court decision! You birthers simply don't want to believe
it.
For G*d's sake, there has been NO SCOTUS decisions.

ALL of the cases, EVERY SINGLE ONE, has been dismissed for lack of standing. NONE of the cases have gone through a trial...not one.
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