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Old 12-03-2010, 09:43 AM
 
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They don't care about the outcome - it's all about power and control masked by a false compassion for the poor and downtrodden.

Make people totally dependent on government for everything - that's the goal of the progressives. The end result - more power for them and less freedom/rights for everyone else.
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Old 12-03-2010, 09:43 AM
 
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The United States was a social experiment and it works.

"As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality." George Washington
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Old 12-03-2010, 09:48 AM
 
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The United States was a social experiment and it works.

"As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality." George Washington
The US was the greatest LIBERAL experiment of its time.

And yes, it is still working. A bit clunky and prone to backfires, but still working.
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Old 12-03-2010, 11:34 AM
 
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All experiments, social or otherwise, are called experiments because the results are not known. Progressives perform social experiments to see if living conditions can be improved whereas conservative prefer time tested methods that do not work.
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Old 12-03-2010, 11:40 AM
 
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All experiments, social or otherwise, are called experiments because the results are not known. Progressives perform social experiments to see if living conditions can be improved
Why don't they stop the madness then when it's blatantly clear their pipe dream programs don't work, and in some cases make things even worse?
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Old 12-03-2010, 11:43 AM
 
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Nevermind. The clip I posted earlier in the thread explains it...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKT-eWMWXOE
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Old 12-03-2010, 11:43 AM
 
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Why don't they stop the madness then when it's blatantly clear their pipe dream programs don't work, and in some cases make things even worse?
Because the truth is exactly what you said previously. They don't care if they work as they sold it to the poeple. They just want the power and control over everyone's lives to turn them into slaves for the elites to get rich from.
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Old 12-03-2010, 11:47 AM
 
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Because the truth is exactly what you said previously. They don't care if they work as they sold it to the poeple. They just want the power and control over everyone's lives to turn them into slaves for the elites to get rich from.
Ah, yes. The Poverty Pimps...
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a lot of anti-poverty money is going to people who are not poor. There are whole classes of people who live off the poor -- or rather, off the vast sums of money that are poured out from the public treasury and private philanthropy, in hopes of helping the poor.
Those who intercept the money intended for the poor have been aptly called "poverty pimps." The poor are a commodity to these people, who include not only local politicians, community activists and small-time hustlers, but also people with impressive titles and academic credentials, who likewise milk the larger society, in the name of the poor.
At the top of the food chain, as it were, are Ivy League professors who rake in big-time research grants to support themselves and their cronies while they are studying, romanticizing or otherwise exploiting the poor. The poem below is about such people, who are as much poverty pimps as politicians who simply pocket graft from poverty programs or collect votes for promoting lucrative boondoggles...
The Poverty Pimp's Poem - Thomas Sowell
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Old 12-03-2010, 11:51 AM
 
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No actually, your Progressive hero Wilson expeimented BY segregating the military and putting dissenters in camps.
LOL..."MY" hero? An ardent racist, and a liar...that's Woodrow Wilson's legacy to me. Don't know where you get this "hero" stuff from.
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Old 12-03-2010, 11:56 AM
 
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Why don't they stop the madness then when it's blatantly clear their pipe dream programs don't work, and in some cases make things even worse?
Because nothing is ever blatantly clear except in the eyes of people who have a very oversimplified view of the world.

you know, the people that occupy the extremes of the political spectrum. In your case, the Right.

Saying the "liberals are always wrong" is every bit as stupid and wrong as saying "conservatives are always wrong."

You're an extremist, but you have so little perspective that you cannot see how far out on a limb you really are.
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