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Old 12-03-2010, 09:03 AM
 
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Great idea, just test your experiment on the populace with total disregard of the consequences. Progressives would never make good IT people with that logic. Their networks and applications would be down most of the time.
No one said anything of the sort.

Your whole premise is false from the start.
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Old 12-03-2010, 09:04 AM
 
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I don't think of changes as social experiments, but as natural developments as (most) humans are trying to move away from the jungle mentality.
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Old 12-03-2010, 09:07 AM
 
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This statement has no support in objective reality whatsoever.
Wake up man, do yoursel;f a favor and get your head out of the sand. Let's see, the Progs had this idea of moving to the Euro (first step in NWO). It is failing after 20 years. Spain went totally green with their energy and they have 25% UE. Did any of the big Prog heads ever think these were possibilities? They most likely did, but didn't care.
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Old 12-03-2010, 09:07 AM
 
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I think a better way to put this is that progressives are more willing to take a risk to effectuate a change they see as necessary, whereas conservatives (since they have what they want already) are generally opposed to any change that may affect them.

IOW, conservatives are selfish. But we knew this already.
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Old 12-03-2010, 09:08 AM
 
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No one said anything of the sort.

Your whole premise is false from the start.
wake up. It is happening right under your nose.
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Old 12-03-2010, 09:09 AM
 
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Wake up man, do yoursel;f a favor and get your head out of the sand. Let's see, the Progs had this idea of moving to the Euro (first step in NWO). It is failing after 20 years. Spain went totally green with their energy and they have 25% UE. Did any of the big Prog heads ever think these were possibilities? They most likely did, but didn't care.
Wake up to what? Your biased, meaningless rant?

Your assertion that progressives "don't care about the consequences' has no basis at all. Reasonable people can disagree.

But the conservatives, on this board at least, don't seem to be terribly reasonable people. You guys seemed addicted, steeped in ideology to the point that it controls and distorts your opinions on just about every subject.
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Old 12-03-2010, 09:10 AM
 
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I think a better way to put this is that progressives are more willing to take a risk to effectuate a change they see as necessary, whereas conservatives (since they have what they want already) are generally opposed to any change that may affect them.

IOW, conservatives are selfish. But we knew this already.
Yeah, take a risk that may put millions into misery. Yeah, I know your motto is "the ends justify the means". So what if a few hundred million people die because of it, what's the big deal right?
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Old 12-03-2010, 09:11 AM
 
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Wake up to what? Your biased, meaningless rant?

Your assertion that progressives "don't care about the consequences' has no basis at all. Reasonable people can disagree.

But the conservatives, on this board at least, don't seem to be terribly reasonable people. You guys seemed addicted, steeped in ideology to the point that it controls and distorts your opinions on just about every subject.
That's my opinion. I'm entitled to it. You don't like it because it is different than yours. See what I mean? No tolerance, just do what we say and don't worry about our ill-conceived experiment. Also, if they did care about the consequenes, are you saying that they didn't think it through and consider the possibilities that are playing out as we speak? Yeah, they surely are intelligent alright.
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Old 12-03-2010, 09:13 AM
 
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Yeah, take a risk that may put millions into misery. Yeah, I know your motto is "the ends justify the means". So what if a few hundred million people die because of it, what's the big deal right?
I'm not buying into you paranoid fantasy.

Social experimentation happens all the time, left and right, conservative and liberal. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

Assigning fault to one political point of view over another in this context is just stupid.
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Old 12-03-2010, 09:14 AM
 
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That's my opinion. I'm entitled to it. You don't like it because it is different than yours. See what I mean? No tolerance, just do what we say and don't worry about our ill-conceived experiment. Also, if they did care about the consequenes, are you saying that they didn't think it through and consider the possibilities that are playing out as we speak? Yeah, they surely are intelligent alright.
No, I don't like it because it has no factual basis, and is really just nothing more than you expressing your bias and showing how ideology colors everything you see in the world.
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