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Old 11-15-2010, 03:32 PM
 
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I'm with the teacher on this one. Students don't go to school to spout opinions, they go there to form them. The kid's views are, in this case, a matter of indifference to a teacher interested in preserving order.

Were this a college classroom I might feel different.
Teachers aren't in the business of teaching to force their opinions/beliefs on students either.

The teacher was wearing a purple t-shirt.

A girl was asked to remove her belt buckle, by the purple t-shirt wearing teacher because it offended him. She did.

The boy, once learning of the significance of the teacher's purple t-shirt protested the teacher asking the girl to remove her belt buckle and it turned into an argument between the boy and the teacher until the teacher one-upped him and sent him out of the class.

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The argument between Glowacki and the teacher grew so heated that McDowell sent Glowacki out of the classroom.

The letter of reprimand read, "You went on to discipline two students who told you they do not accept gays due to their religion. After a failure of getting one student to recant, you engaged in an unsupported snap suspension, rather than allow the student his beliefs."
Teachers should teach. You want to "support" something, do it at a rally, after-school. Bullying is bullying - it doesn't matter why someone is bullied, it shouldn't be allowed.

What color t-shirt do teachers wear in support of any chubby/nerdy/smelly/low-income/high water pant wearing kids who are bullied?
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Old 11-15-2010, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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I don't see a problem with kids wearing purple in support of the anti-gay movement. I don't see a problem with kids wearing the confederate flag. If the school has a rule about confederate flags (which the teacher argues that it does), then that's the school's thing. I don't agree with it, but the teacher was merely enforcing that rule. I do see a problem with breaking into a full-fledged argument in the middle of the classroom. As soon as the kid became overly disruptive, he was asked to leave the class. Teacher did right to remove the disruptive student.

I'm not saying that because he was all "Grrrr arrrg anti-gay" - because for all I care, he could have been serenading the class with a Broadway Musical. He was disrupting the class from learning and was thus removed.
Bam.

This.

Right here.

No need for any other posts in this thread.
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Old 11-15-2010, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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The school needs to get with the program: students do not HAVE any rights. They are still children.
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Old 11-15-2010, 03:58 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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The school needs to get with the program: students do not HAVE any rights. They are still children.
That is true to everyone below the age of 16 or 18 depending on the state.
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Old 11-15-2010, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Ever hear the term "in loco parentis"? Until the person is emancipated from their parents, the parents are responsible...and often, held responsible...for his or her actions.
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Old 11-15-2010, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Homosexuality will never be accepted as normal by the majority of society. That does not mean society is bigoted. It means that homosexuality is not normal.
This is true.

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It was disruptive. What do you think the child's intent was? He wasn't doing a project on the Civil War. Are you that far gone and so obessed with being right that you put the education of every child in that class room aside to further some far right agenda? If he wants to protest against Gay people and display his pride of old south by displaying the Confederate flag, he is free to do so, outside of school. I bet you wouldn't be so quick to defend someone who was wearing a t-shirt expressing their love for the Black Panther Party and arguing with the teacher about how evil White people or the establishment is. Either way, it is still disruptive and NO ONE can go around saying or doing whatever they want at school or at work. It is unrealistic to think this behavior would be tolerated.
The kid was highlighting the hypocrisy and double standard when it comes to a kid expressing his right to free speech by wearing a supportive shirt and another by NOT being supportive of the cause.
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Old 11-15-2010, 04:42 PM
 
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Bam.

This.

Right here.

No need for any other posts in this thread.
Did you bother to read the article?
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Old 11-15-2010, 04:42 PM
 
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Teachers aren't in the business of teaching to force their opinions/beliefs on students either.

The teacher was wearing a purple t-shirt.

A girl was asked to remove her belt buckle, by the purple t-shirt wearing teacher because it offended him. She did.

The boy, once learning of the significance of the teacher's purple t-shirt protested the teacher asking the girl to remove her belt buckle and it turned into an argument between the boy and the teacher until the teacher one-upped him and sent him out of the class.


Teachers should teach. You want to "support" something, do it at a rally, after-school. Bullying is bullying - it doesn't matter why someone is bullied, it shouldn't be allowed.

What color t-shirt do teachers wear in support of any chubby/nerdy/smelly/low-income/high water pant wearing kids who are bullied?
This says it all! No need for any other posts!
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Old 11-15-2010, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Curious: Would you be okay with a swastika? A pro al Qaeda T shirt?
Sure. If somebody wants to look foolish that's their fault. In the 80s I remember a kid wearing a DIO shirt from the album "Diver Down" that showed a priest being drowned. I'm sure lots of Roman Catholics found that offensive but nobody banned the kid from wearing it. We do not have a right to avoid having our feelings hurt in this country. If someone had even suggested such a thing at the Constitutional Convention when the Founding Fathers were creating the Constitution they would have been laughed out of the room. What a bunch of wusses we've become.
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Old 11-15-2010, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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The need for an orderly classroom outweighs any 'rights' a kid has. The kid should've belted up when he was told to and lodged a complaint.
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