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Old 11-16-2010, 05:02 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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The person in authority decides what is disruptive.

Is that the student, the teacher, or is there no "authority" to be respected in a school?
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Old 11-16-2010, 05:14 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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The person in authority decides what is disruptive.

Is that the student, the teacher, or is there no "authority" to be respected in a school?

if what you say is correct TK, the teacher decided that the student was wrong, and the school board decided that the teacher was wrong. so they both got their just punishments.
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Old 11-16-2010, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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No, if the teacher is an authority to be respected, the school board acted to the detriment of the authority figure.

No wonder why the public school system is going to Hell. You either back up your people, or when it hits the fan, you have no excuse. Seems to me the school board is saying that teachers have no authority to act.
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Old 11-16-2010, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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No, if the teacher is an authority to be respected, the school board acted to the detriment of the authority figure.

No wonder why the public school system is going to Hell. You either back up your people, or when it hits the fan, you have no excuse. Seems to me the school board is saying that teachers have no authority to act.
When your people are in the wrong, you don't blindly back them up.

Obviously, the teacher didn't want to hear anti-gay opinions.
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Old 11-16-2010, 07:14 AM
 
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Isn't it pretty hard to suspend a teacher?

The letter of reprimand read, "You went on to discipline two students who told you they do not accept gays due to their religion. After a failure of getting one student to recant, you engaged in an unsupported snap suspension, rather than allow the student his beliefs."

It looks like he tried to get the student to take back his statement. There is a huge difference between a disruption to class and forcing others' beliefs through threat of discipline.
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Old 11-16-2010, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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When your people are in the wrong, you don't blindly back them up.

Obviously, the teacher didn't want to hear anti-gay opinions.
Not when they're disruptive. Nothing wrong with learning when to keep your mouth shut. Doesn't keep you from having the opinion, but it may save you from p*ssing off the wrong person one day.
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Old 11-16-2010, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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The student was not being disruptive. He stated his belief and the teacher didn't like it. The teacher tried to get him to recant his statement and he wouldn't. Then the theacher threw him out. The teacher is the bigot here. Homosexuals demand 'tolerance' for their lifestyle but they have no tolerance for the religious beliefs of others. Public schools have long since stopped being places where education was of primary importance. Now they are factories of social indoctrination by liberals. That is why liberals fear voucher programs and home-schooling. It is insane that we have to support these propaganda centers with our taxes. We should all stop paying the portion of our property taxes that goes to fund schools until they get back in the business of education and out of hte business of indoctrination.
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Old 11-16-2010, 10:19 AM
 
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The student was not being disruptive. He stated his belief and the teacher didn't like it. The teacher tried to get him to recant his statement and he wouldn't. Then the theacher threw him out. The teacher is the bigot here. Homosexuals demand 'tolerance' for their lifestyle but they have no tolerance for the religious beliefs of others. Public schools have long since stopped being places where education was of primary importance. Now they are factories of social indoctrination by liberals. That is why liberals fear voucher programs and home-schooling. It is insane that we have to support these propaganda centers with our taxes. We should all stop paying the portion of our property taxes that goes to fund schools until they get back in the business of education and out of hte business of indoctrination.
so true- well said.
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Old 11-16-2010, 01:39 PM
 
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But in a school? If I were a Jewish kid and they did nothing about a swastika I'd be rightly concerned. Wouldn't you? The high school classroom is probably society's last shot at teaching children how to behave before they're finally vested with full adult rights. It's our last shot at telling kids that it's not just about them and their feelings. They have to share the world with people with whom they disagree.
Well that would be fine if world would respect their beliefs as much as they're expected to respect other beliefs, but their not, as long as it's not a liberal group or opinion attacked it's fair game.
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Old 11-16-2010, 01:43 PM
 
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Not when they're disruptive. Nothing wrong with learning when to keep your mouth shut. Doesn't keep you from having the opinion, but it may save you from p*ssing off the wrong person one day.
Tell that to the left when they're having a rally for their causes. Nobody tells them to shut up and if they did they'd be called all kinds of things and in trouble to boot.
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