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Old 06-18-2022, 03:58 PM
 
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Why not move to a country with an authoritarian leader?
because reasonable expectations of personal safety and overall social stability....are unreasonable in the US of 2022?

 
Old 06-18-2022, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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You guys are always welcome to move elsewhere. There are plenty of countries in the world that are in a police state. Sounds like you would enjoy authoritarian leadership.
Interesting how you assume folks want to live in a police state when you want guns banned, want vaccine mandates, etc…

Many folks don’t have such low standards and aren’t interested in dealing with riff-raff, skyrocketing crime and violent crime, etc…
 
Old 06-18-2022, 08:31 PM
 
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because reasonable expectations of personal safety and overall social stability....are unreasonable in the US of 2022?
Well when you have 120 guns for every 100 people. And the right to bear arms what do you expect?

You can move to Chad or another authoritarian country if you want to live in a police state.

Too many guns. I’m all for halting manufacturing of guns and ammo indefinitely and banning AK 47 type weapons.

And social media pouring gasoline on a fire. It’s easy for Erieguy to site behind a screen and talk, however I highly doubt he had the testicular fortitude to say a quarter of what he blabs about on here face to face with somebody else that views thing much different.
 
Old 06-18-2022, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Well when you have 120 guns for every 100 people. And the right to bear arms what do you expect?
The ability to defend oneself from loser criminals and not become a statistic. Saves a call to the police that may take too long to get there.
 
Old 06-18-2022, 08:38 PM
 
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The ability to defend oneself from loser criminals and not become a statistic.
We were a safer nation when it was 88 guns and less for every 100 people. If guns were the answer we would be the safest country in the world.
 
Old 06-18-2022, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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We were a safer nation when it was 88 guns and less for every 100 people. If guns were the answer we would be the safest country in the world.
Put the loser violent criminals away for life and we’ll be plenty safe, but since that won’t happen, it’s wonderful that folks have the ability to defend and do it themselves…especially since criminals will always get access to guns no matter whether they’re banned or not.
 
Old 06-19-2022, 05:55 AM
 
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The argument of "too many guns" holds no water. What is the optimal number of guns one should own? I have two hands and therefore can only use two guns at a time. Doesn't matter if I have three guns, 30 guns or 300 hundred guns. Limiting guns doesn't equal less crime. That's living in fantasy land - as most leftists/Democrats already do.

Furthermore, the Constitution doesn't limit the number of guns. "Shall not be infringed" means lefty humanoids don't get to tell me how many guns I can own. The right to be armed is a God-given right and you just have to deal with that fact.

Last edited by Tony_Soprano; 06-19-2022 at 06:49 AM..
 
Old 06-19-2022, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Etna, PA
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because reasonable expectations of personal safety and overall social stability....are unreasonable in the US of 2022?
The lefties will probably say those expectations are tied into some inherent white supremacy.

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You guys are always welcome to move elsewhere. There are plenty of countries in the world that are in a police state. Sounds like you would enjoy authoritarian leadership.
If you are so obsessed with our state and with trolling those of us who actually live here but disagree with your views - then why dont you put your money where your mouth is and actually move here?

Since you dont live here, you cant appreciate the fact that the people of this state have already lived through authoritarian leadership: Tom Wolf's legalized dictatorship.

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Interesting how you assume folks want to live in a police state when you want guns banned, want vaccine mandates, etc…
Yup - how about they just move to Australia? Theyd love it! Extremely strict gun restrictions and a government that responded with EXTREME authoritarianism to the China Flu.


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Well when you have 120 guns for every 100 people. And the right to bear arms what do you expect?
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We were a safer nation when it was 88 guns and less for every 100 people. If guns were the answer we would be the safest country in the world.
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Put the loser violent criminals away for life and we’ll be plenty safe, but since that won’t happen, it’s wonderful that folks have the ability to defend and do it themselves…especially since criminals will always get access to guns no matter whether they’re banned or not.
Is the increased number of guns responsible for the increase in crime?
Or has the Democrats attack on gun rights while concurrently installing revolving doors at jails and that ensuing increase in crime pushed more law-abiding citizens to better arm themselves from the criminals that Democrats have been coddling since Obama?
 
Old 06-19-2022, 07:08 AM
 
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The argument of "too many guns" holds no water. What is the optimal number of guns one should own? I have two hands and therefore can only use two guns at a time. Doesn't matter if I have three guns, 30 guns or 300 hundred guns. Limiting guns doesn't equal less crime. That's living in fantasy land - as most leftists/Democrats already do.

Furthermore, the Constitution doesn't limit the number of guns. "Shall not be infringed" means lefty humanoids don't get to tell me how many guns I can own. The right to be armed is a God-given right and you just have to deal with that fact.
Violent crime and shootings have become more frequent. 88 guns for 100 people in 2011. 120 guns for 100 people in 2022. We don’t need to manufacture anymore. Gun and ammo manufacturing should be halted indefinitely. Period. Assault weapons should be banned period.

If more guns were the answer we would be the safest country in the world.

The number probably needs cut in half to see significant declines in crime.

The constitution doesn’t give you the right to own ammo either.
 
Old 06-19-2022, 07:16 AM
 
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Guns don't cause crime. The Hutus in Rwanda managed to kill over 1M Tutsi in 90 days in the 1990s, primarily with machetes. Killers are the problem, not objects. The troll you all respond to could just as easily be a mass murderer tomorrow.
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