COVID 19 stats - ALLEGHENY COUNTY and beyond (Pittsburgh: vs, store)

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Joe_P

Bingo.

[Joe_P]

Oh, you're a troll. I thought you were serious.

I merely responded, but thanks for demonstrating how you're not serious with the troll remark.

[szug-bot]

Originally Posted by erieguy

Actually, we’re typing away in accordance to stats of survival rate.

Are you going to stay locked down until every case is gone?

Are you going to lock down every flu season from now on since flu deaths are high and have been posted so many times?

of course not. but you aren't suggesting and never did a rational approach to an unprecedented situation.
at this point, scores of pages into this thread, im not going to debate it, but im taken back how people here seem to have the RIGHT answers, the best course of action....

it would take DAYS to even come up with a plan. think of how the gov and leaders have to consult people, discuss, plan, consult again, before coming up with a plan. yet right away people want they want when they want it.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by TheLawMan

Oh, you're a troll. I thought you were serious.

Bingo

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by szug-bot

of course not. but you aren't suggesting and never did a rational approach to an unprecedented situation.
at this point, scores of pages into this thread, im not going to debate it, but im taken back how people here seem to have the RIGHT answers, the best course of action....

it would take DAYS to even come up with a plan. think of how the gov and leaders have to consult people, discuss, plan, consult again, before coming up with a plan. yet right away people want they want when they want it.

What’s the survival rate?

[szug-bot]

Originally Posted by erieguy

What’s the survival rate?

the better question, back in February, would be: what WILL be the survival rate?

the answer: no one knows.

NO ONE could predict what would happen after north american patient zero landed in Seattle. there was no benchmark, no reference, no nothing...no precedent for this.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by szug-bot

the better question, back in February, would be: what WILL be the survival rate?

the answer: no one knows.

NO ONE could predict what would happen after north american patient zero landed in Seattle. there was no benchmark, no reference, no nothing...no precedent for this.

How many cases?

How many deaths?

What’s the current survival rate?

[Independentthinking83]

Originally Posted by Reggiezz

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/0...to-normal.html

I have been roasted by one of the household pets on here that I am no medical professional and I should shut up, in the nicest and most PC way possible. They are right I am no medical professional, but I can read stats and interpret data. Apparently this doctor can too. Amazing that a lot of what he says aligned with what I talked about in another thread and probably echoed to some extent through others. It’s not surprising. Anybody who can do math understands they were off by metric tons. We gave up and shut down our economy for this. This was never a doomsday disease. It makes you sick but it was never going to be the end of days. More than 99.9 percent of the population is surviving this. I actually think his numbers are more conservative. I bet 30 to 40 percent of the population had this already. Americans are afraid and easily duped. Very few have the ability to stand back, process the data and look at the whole picture. Most people listen to media snippets and their mind is made up. Very sad and tragic.

[ForYourLungsOnly]

Originally Posted by Independentthinking83

I have been roasted by one of the household pets on here that I am no medical professional and I should shut up, in the nicest and most PC way possible. They are right I am no medical professional, but I can read stats and interpret data. Apparently this doctor can too. Amazing that a lot of what he says aligned with what I talked about in another thread and probably echoed to some extent through others. It’s not surprising. Anybody who can do math understands they were off by metric tons. We gave up and shut down our economy for this. This was never a doomsday disease. It makes you sick but it was never going to be the end of days. More than 99.9 percent of the population is surviving this. I actually think his numbers are more conservative. I bet 30 to 40 percent of the population had this already. Americans are afraid and easily duped. Very few have the ability to stand back, process the data and look at the whole picture. Most people listen to media snippets and their mind is made up. Very sad and tragic.

I work in healthcare in the critical care setting. I, first hand, saw the massive acute surge of critically ill patients we had just in our hospital just because of COVID-19. I know many hospitals in the Chicago area that faired far worse than ours. I saw many deaths, many families say goodbye to their family members on ipads. Pittsburgh and their hospitals have been VERY lucky that they have been hit quite lightly overall.

That being said, I don't disagree with what a lot of what the physician from UPMC is saying. Given that the Pittsburgh region has been hit fairly lightly, there is no reason that UPMC should not start doing more elective surgeries soon. Even hospitals around Chicago are now taking a step-wise approach to reactivate. I want everyone to also think of the statistics. Most people who understand this stuff already knew that the n was much MUCH higher than what was being reported as far as the number of cases total in the U.S. But think again of the initial thoughts on mortality that were (thankfully) wrong. You realize that if 20% of citizens get this disease and it actually had a 2% mortality, that deaths would be in the millions, right? We should be very thankful that it more likely has a mortality rate of 0.2%, still worse than the flu, but much more manageable. We've seen more deaths from COVID in the US in this short 6 week timeline than we do for most entire flu seasons. That is WITH major social distancing and extreme measures taken to prevent spread. I am not a sensationalist, but a realist who has seen first hand the effects the virus had on the healthcare system.

Yes, Pittsburgh and UPMC got very lucky, but I can tell you right now that doctor understands what many of his colleagues out in Philly, NYC, Chicago, etc. went through and are going through. The distancing measures initally taken were very necessary. I can't imagine what critical care units in big cities across the nation would have looked like if we just carried on like business as usual back in mid March. I agree that it is time to cautiously begin reopening the economy, with most counties being open by the end of May. If we are smart, the nation can ease out of these restrictions by early summer and we can be prepared going into fall with more arsenal to tackle COVID when it surges again (and it will). Like the doctor said, COVID will be with us for the long term future, so we should get used to it and intelligently plan how to live with it until a vaccine is available.

[Copanut]

Originally Posted by ForYourLungsOnly

I work in healthcare in the critical care setting. I, first hand, saw the massive acute surge of critically ill patients we had just in our hospital just because of COVID-19. I know many hospitals in the Chicago area that faired far worse than ours. I saw many deaths, many families say goodbye to their family members on ipads. Pittsburgh and their hospitals have been VERY lucky that they have been hit quite lightly overall.


Yes, Pittsburgh and UPMC got very lucky, but I can tell you right now that doctor understands what many of his colleagues out in Philly, NYC, Chicago, etc. went through and are going through. The distancing measures initally taken were very necessary. I can't imagine what critical care units in big cities across the nation would have looked like if we just carried on like business as usual back in mid March. I agree that it is time to cautiously begin reopening the economy, with most counties being open by the end of May. If we are smart, the nation can ease out of these restrictions by early summer and we can be prepared going into fall with more arsenal to tackle COVID when it surges again (and it will). Like the doctor said, COVID will be with us for the long term future, so we should get used to it and intelligently plan how to live with it until a vaccine is available.

Always good to read an intelligent post.