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In this ever changing world of equality and fairness boy's and girl's should be raised equally.
I agree. Boys and girls should be raised to believe that, regardless of sex, each one can and should achieve all that he or she is capable of.
“The essence of our effort to see that every child has a chance must be to assure each an equal opportunity, not to become equal, but to become different - to realize whatever unique potential of body, mind and spirit he or she possesses” - Dr. John Martin Fischer
With regard to the individual, and his or her role in society:
We should teach and model traditional gender roles, so that our male and female children will learn how to be a man or woman, and how to interact with each other effectively and comfortably.
With regard to careers:
We should teach our children that women and men are equally capable of becoming a CEOs, pilots, construction workers, nurses, teachers, secretaries, etc. Furthermore, we should teach them that they should pursue whatever career suits their aptitudes & goals, regardless of which gender has traditionally occupied that particular job.
Oh, and letting a boy "dress in pink and play with barbies" isn't setting him up for success.
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I don't see that many men, even younger ones prancing around on those super high heels and risking ankle injuries. I wonder if things have really changed all that much is all -- women are being taught they are equal to men but it's not very evident that they are buying into it. Independent women are nothing new, my great grandmother was extremely self-sufficient as well as some great aunts and aunts. They could do what few men today could do.
At least do you take your car into a shop with female mechanics?
In previous times of our ancestors life was 'tougher' in general. They didn't have the same modern advances that we have today. Allowing this generation to not focus just on basic survival instincts. But have more time for careers, technological advances and so on.
Thus having world where humans are no longer weighed down by the traditional daily task of laundry by hand, dishes by hand, making candles for indoor light and etc. We now have machines and tools that do this for us. Leaving more time for socialistic advancement in the modern world allowing women who traditionally did all these tedious daily activities now have an equal chance at flourishing in the "mans world"
Oh, and letting a boy "dress in pink and play with barbies" isn't setting him up for success.
Then what is your definition of "success"? The word success is only the perceived definition of the user.
Say that boy who is playing with barbies and pink is a child who was born into the wrong body. His dream is to become a "traditional" girl (remember, I said there was nothing wrong with being a traditional girl I'm only implying that women have an equal chance in a mans world) because he doesn't feel nature gave him the right parts as an individual.
So if he decides then to make his life goal to become a WOMAN and have a husband to cook and clean for and accomplishes his set goal then I consider him to be a successful person.
This is a very real dilemma. You can read about a REAL case that relates and backs my personal opinion.
A women no longer has the same responsibility's as she did compared to her ancestors. Cooking and cleaning is no longer a necessity for the modern day strong and independent woman of today. She has an equal chance of competing and THRIVING in what was once thought of as a 'mans world'.
Cooking and cleaning aren't necessary any more? Does food cook itself? Do houses clean themselves?
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If little girls are interested in building, tools, and cars that was once only thought for boys instead of the traditional baby dolls/ tea sets then so be it.
Are building, tools and cars better than baby dolls/tea sets? Are they only better for girls? I am confused. Kids should play with whatever they like.
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Originally Posted by Dr. Lynnwood
Empower your girl and let her become successful in life. independent and free of a man in her adult life for her own personal conquest to make it on top in the corporate ladder. Take a look at this interesting product geared towards children(girls)...
It's pretty lonely all alone at the top. Most people want someone to share their life. I don't consider someone who has climbed the corporate ladder but has an unsatisfactory personal life to be "successful."
Cooking and cleaning aren't necessary any more? Does food cook itself? Do houses clean themselves?
Yes, you are correct cooking and cleaning is and most likely always be necessary. Until robots or some other technological advancements are created to do these chores for us its still a human occupation until the future is that idea is mere science fiction. What I'm expressing is its no longer soley the Women's job to complete these daily task and socially induced to play the role as house wives. The women of 2013 and so forth have the opportunity more than ever to equally compete the 'mans world' through the corporate ladder, politics, trades and etc
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Originally Posted by Momma_bear
Are building, tools and cars better than baby dolls/tea sets? Are they only better for girls? I am confused. Kids should play with whatever they like.
No, tools and cars are not necessarily considered 'better' than tea sets, that's subjective. What I'm saying is its up to the child to believe what is 'better' to play with due to their own personal interests. And not force the child to play with a certain set of tools/toys because of gender and the society's traditional values of the old world.
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It's pretty lonely all alone at the top. Most people want someone to share their life. I don't consider someone who has climbed the corporate ladder but has an unsatisfactory personal life to be "successful."
Bread winning is no longer the sole purpose of the man. Woman have the right to be just as successful and make the same amount of money as their husband. Just because an individual is successful does not mean they are lonely. 2 successful people can 100% get together and create a genuine/strong relationship.
Then again success is only determined by the individual who first created their OWN personal goal.
Then what is your definition of "success"? The word success is only the perceived definition of the user.
Say that boy who is playing with barbies and pink is a child who was born into the wrong body. His dream is to become a "traditional" girl (remember, I said there was nothing wrong with being a traditional girl I'm only implying that women have an equal chance in a mans world) because he doesn't feel nature gave him the right parts as an individual.
So if he decides then to make his life goal to become a WOMAN and have a husband to cook and clean for and accomplishes his set goal then I consider him to be a successful person.
This is a very real dilemma. You can read about a REAL case that relates and backs my personal opinion.
Girls actually have had it easier. There have always been "tomboys" and an acceptance of them, girls didn't just start playing with boys toys, they always have. The majority of girls prefer girl toys like dolls but you can go back to women of other generations who will tell you their dolls laid naked at the bottom of toy box.
Girls can dress like boys and it's accepted. Even back when dresses were worn to school and work, women could put on mens clothes do do chores. Boys doing the same but with dresses would be mocked. Girls putting on their dad's flannel shirt or wearing their boyfriend's jeans don't get their sexuality question but a boy putting on his mom's blouse or borrowing his sisters clothes would.
Boys don't have an equivalent of "tomboy" that is socially acceptable in the same way. A boy who enjoys dolls --- and not just making them fight --- is not viewed the same way as a girl who wants a train set.
And yes --- women can now work better jobs than many could in the past. They can earn as much or more than men. They can contribute to their children's support or even be the sole provider. There is little excuse today for helplessness. Women don't have to squeal over a little spider anymore and wait like little damsels in distress to be rescued by a man. They don't have to stand helplessly on the side of the road because they've got a flat tire and wait for some knight in shining armor to save them, they can get out and change it -- it's not hard to do.
That's all good --- but I don't know if particular toys is why. Nurses for example today can make very high incomes and it's become far more gender neutral.
What I'm expressing is its no longer soley the Women's job to complete these daily task and socially induced to play the role as house wives.
That is not what you said. You said "Cooking and cleaning is no longer a necessity for the modern day strong and independent woman of today."
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Originally Posted by Dr. Lynnwood
No, tools and cars are not necessarily considered 'better' than tea sets, that's subjective. What I'm saying is its up to the child to believe what is 'better' to play with due to their own personal interests. And not force the child to play with a certain set of tools/toys because of gender and the society's traditional values of the old world.
This is not a new concept. My kids are 19, 17, 14 (all boys) when they were small there were plenty of kids playing with non traditional toys.
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Originally Posted by Dr. Lynnwood
Bread winning is no longer the sole purpose of the man. Woman have the right to be just as successful and make the same amount of money as their husband. Just because an individual is successful does not mean they are lonely. 2 successful people can 100% get together and create a genuine/strong relationship.
Then again success is only determined by the individual who first created their OWN personal goal.
Again, that is not what you said in your original post. You said:
"Empower your girl and let her become successful in life. independent and free of a man in her adult life for her own personal conquest to make it on top in the corporate ladder. "
To me, a life free of a partner (male or female) is a sad life indeed.
That is not what you said. You said "Cooking and cleaning is no longer a necessity for the modern day strong and independent woman of today."
EXCATLY, meaning that she no longer has to cook and clean as her ONLY role as a woman. Yes, technically she as to cook to eat but she doesn't have to do this for financial security in a result/exchange of a man being her sole provider.
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Originally Posted by Momma_bear
Again, that is not what you said in your original post. You said:
"Empower your girl and let her become successful in life. independent and free of a man in her adult life for her own personal conquest to make it on top in the corporate ladder. "
To me, a life free of a partner (male or female) is a sad life indeed.
You and I have a different definition on independent women. *MY* opinion on an independent woman is some one who can provide and take of her self. This does not mean she has to be single. The financial responsibilities are split 50% 50% for example.
Girls actually have had it easier. There have always been "tomboys" and an acceptance of them, girls didn't just start playing with boys toys, they always have. The majority of girls prefer girl toys like dolls but you can go back to women of other generations who will tell you their dolls laid naked at the bottom of toy box.
Girls can dress like boys and it's accepted. Even back when dresses were worn to school and work, women could put on mens clothes do do chores. Boys doing the same but with dresses would be mocked. Girls putting on their dad's flannel shirt or wearing their boyfriend's jeans don't get their sexuality question but a boy putting on his mom's blouse or borrowing his sisters clothes would.
Boys don't have an equivalent of "tomboy" that is socially acceptable in the same way. A boy who enjoys dolls --- and not just making them fight --- is not viewed the same way as a girl who wants a train set.
That is the dilemma that needs to changed. Because some boys are just born in the wrong body.
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