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Old 02-05-2012, 03:16 PM
 
Location: back in Philadelphia!
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More proposed for No Libs Piazza expansion
Eek! I think this kind of kills it. I would hope that an expansion of the Piazza would go in the direction of more things like Liberties Walk, rather than adding setback high rises. Hopefully there's some attention to the streetscape. Oh well. I guess we'll see.
I suppose that just adding density could help support business elsewhere in the neighborhood.
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Old 02-05-2012, 06:42 PM
 
Location: West Cedar Park, Philadelphia
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Eek! I think this kind of kills it. I would hope that an expansion of the Piazza would go in the direction of more things like Liberties Walk, rather than adding setback high rises. Hopefully there's some attention to the streetscape. Oh well. I guess we'll see.
I suppose that just adding density could help support business elsewhere in the neighborhood.
If it breaks ground I'll call it another small victory regardless of the design. That there's the demand for something like this is a good sign.
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Old 02-06-2012, 01:03 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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These metro population numbers are always skewed, deceiving, and imo wrong. Philly always gets shrifted here. In the past week I did the Rt30 from Exton to Lancaster and 309 from Chestnut Hill to Allentown/Whitehall. Uninterrupted development. DC + NY would somehow pull Lancaster/Allentown into their metro. Not Philly though.



Philadlephia's location(between NYC+DC) and geography makes it ripe for growth. Bostons more on the northern frontier and they are limited growth wise being between the Atlanic Ocean and Berkshires.
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Honestly I think these numbers are very conservative. It's going to take our metro almost 40 years to get to 14 million?

These never take into account the fact that our metro lost so much population and is built much denser than its current population suggests. I've been crunching numbers for awhile now on current population in the Delaware Valley versus peak population/capacity, and I'll post it somewhere on the forum when I'm done. It's going to open more than a few eyes.

One thing that annoys me though about these metros is that Philadelphia is the only large city that doesn't try to act like everywhere even remotely near it is a part of its metro. Philadelphia doesn't add Lancaster or Harrisburg or Allentown or the Jersey shore. It doesn't add Delaware further than New Castle County, etc. I saw DC posters trying to act like Baltimore was a part of their metro! A city that at one point had almost a million people and was very prominent, that is completely independent and has two major sports franchises!
I threw in Berks county but the Reading Metro is technically separate from the Philly Metro , so is the Lehigh Valley which i did not include. If I did the numbers would be even higher.... By 2030 all 3 Metro will merge and by 2050 the Northeastern Megapolis will grow to as far West as Harrisburg - York and as far North as Albany...
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Old 02-06-2012, 01:08 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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1990 Population : 43 Million
2000 Population : 49 Million
2010 Population : 53 Million
2025 Population : 58 Million
2040 Population : 80 Million
2050 Population : 85 Million

2060 Population : 90 Million


2010 Transit Daily Usage : 20.4 Million
2030 Transit Daily Usage : 35 Million
2050 Transit Usage : 50 Million


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Old 02-06-2012, 06:36 AM
 
Location: The City
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Eek! I think this kind of kills it. I would hope that an expansion of the Piazza would go in the direction of more things like Liberties Walk, rather than adding setback high rises. Hopefully there's some attention to the streetscape. Oh well. I guess we'll see.
I suppose that just adding density could help support business elsewhere in the neighborhood.
Plan and reality or anything ever getting built is always the thing

I cant find more on this though it appears the building with the large setback has new row houses fronting (think it is) American street and on the other side would have street facing but who knows

Also it appears Blatstein is turning focus to the Inky building and the area around Borad and SG so who knows if this would ver be built
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:51 PM
 
Location: The City
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Hmmm


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/01/re...ment.html?_r=4
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:21 PM
 
Location: West Cedar Park, Philadelphia
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lol @ Walgreens as the retail space
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Old 02-12-2012, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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May be cause for some optimism - this would be a critical link in the development of North Broad.

Divine Lorraine
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Old 02-12-2012, 10:00 AM
 
Location: back in Philadelphia!
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May be cause for some optimism - this would be a critical link in the development of North Broad.

Divine Lorraine
Good news, and hopefully it will help counter the terrible convention center expansion on n. broad.
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Old 02-12-2012, 10:26 AM
 
Location: back in Philadelphia!
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Regarding the Divine Lorraine, I wonder if when it gets fixed up, it will lose much of it's gravity/impact, much the way the old "billboard for blight", the Victory Building became so much less remarkable once it (thankfully) got fixed up?
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