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Old 10-07-2012, 09:26 PM
 
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Anything under 15's too young. I even think 16 and 17 is too young as well but if they're having sex then they should have "protection". But thankfully teenage sex is on the decline.
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:23 PM
 
Location: The Other California
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My son went away to college and we sent him with condoms.
Cool. Did you send him with some prostitute money just in case he needed that too? Perhaps a stash of porn?

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Old 10-07-2012, 10:25 PM
 
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I assume it may happen...and plan for it.
Gotta love all the responsible parenthood in this thread.
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:43 PM
 
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Gotta love all the responsible parenthood in this thread.
You say that as though you can control the outcome. Teens have sex, and I dare say most of them do it without parental approval. Just being a realist here. If they are going to have sex, I'd rather they understand the responsibilities that entails.
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:51 PM
 
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You say that as though you can control the outcome. Teens have sex, and I dare say most of them do it without parental approval. Just being a realist here. If they are going to have sex, I'd rather they understand the responsibilities that entails.
You're not being a realist, Mattie - you're being lazy. Good parenting can control the outcome. I see it all the time. Obviously even the best parenting can't totally eliminate the possibility of teens making this kind of mistake, but we're talking about probabilities here, not guarantees.
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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You're not being a realist, Mattie - you're being lazy. Good parenting can control the outcome. I see it all the time. Obviously even the best parenting can't totally eliminate the possibility of teens making this kind of mistake, but we're talking about probabilities here, not guarantees.
So which is it? "Good parenting" can or can't control the outcome?

And I didn't realize you, Western Pilgrim, were the determinant in what constitutes good parenting. I'll be sure to make a note of that for future reference.
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Old 10-07-2012, 11:09 PM
 
Location: The Other California
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So which is it? "Good parenting" can or can't control the outcome?
OK, perhaps it would be less confusing to use the word "influence" rather than "control". Good parenting can control the probabilities, and by so doing can influence the outcome. If a teen subject to good parenting is, let's say, 70 percent less likely to have sex than a teen subject to bad parenting, then good parenting influences the outcome.

Does that work for you?

In other words, "they're going to have sex anyway" is a cop out. Even worse, this attitude on the part of parents just increases the likelihood that their teens will have sex.

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And I didn't realize you, Western Pilgrim, were the determinant in what constitutes good parenting. I'll be sure to make a note of that for future reference.
If you want to argue that cool indifference towards teenage behavior that exposes them to STDs, unwanted pregnancies, emotional trauma, and relationship pathologies is good parenting, be my guest.
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Old 10-07-2012, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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I haven't seen "cool indifference" to any of those things. I've seen parents who believe that communication and education are important parenting tools. Just because a person's parenting philosophy differs from your beliefs, doesn't necessarily make it lazy, bad or irresponsible parenting.
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Old 10-07-2012, 11:37 PM
 
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I haven't seen "cool indifference" to any of those things. I've seen parents who believe that communication and education are important parenting tools.
Read the thread. "Here's a box of condoms, have a good time" is what passes for "important parenting tools". But you're right, that's not cool indifference - it's positive enthusiasm for teen promiscuity.

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Just because a person's parenting philosophy differs from your beliefs, doesn't necessarily make it lazy, bad or irresponsible parenting.
Differing from my beliefs is not the point. Some parenting philosophies are objectively lazy, bad, and irresponsible. Disagreements about co-sleeping, breastfeeding, spanking, homeschooling and whathaveyou are not on the same level as cooperating with and actively facilitating the sexual activity of teenage children. The mind reels.
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:59 AM
 
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Gotta love all the responsible parenthood in this thread.
What is irresponsible about informing your child about sex and providing that child with things that will allow him to engage in sexual activity? Sex is a normal activity and college students are adults. Providing condoms for a college student is not the same as providing condoms for a middle school kid.
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