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the adults in political power, running this country, are the hippies of the 1960's but instead of smoking pot and dressing like hippies, they wear suits and play a role. they still stick it to the imaginary man every chance they get.
thats why our country is going to pot (pun hehe) thats why underaged strippers are allowed to perform "theater" for older men and why you have this gross leniency in government towards illegal drugs.
That's a pretty stinging indictment of the Hippies, don't you think so? Weren't they the peace and love generation,
that bunch of "peace-niks" and "draft-dodgers" who refused to go over and drink Vietnam's blood? I'd rather not see that
consortium of self-serving clowns who are running this country (into the ground), being associated with the likes of the
flower people but more categorically close to Moe, Larry and Curly or the Keystone Cops.
And, as to how you've possibly seen "gross leniency" anywhere within our government's drug policy, I'd really like you
to come back on that observation, with a plausible example of where and how you see this lenience being applied. Maybe
those statistics which are indicating to me that our prisons are bloated with illegal drug infractors, many with no other
history of "crime", are just the statistics that the government uses to convince the people that they are doing their job. Meanwhile, why not start a new thread and we'll deal with those underage strippers. Would you do that?
I wonder if the kids were ever tested for exposure? This is one of the things I think about when people are so happy to legalize mj in Ca. What about the kids?
Yes, what about the children?
We live in a world where some things are Ok for adults to do and where children are forbidden by custom, culture and law to do those things. That would still be true if MJ is re-legalized.
Every society has to make a decision, are we going to prohibit anything that might be harmful to a child to occur, ever? Even to the point of invading private homes to make sure, or are we going to allow adults to do things that adults are capable of doing responsibly, and punish those who don't.
I think our society has made the choice to reserve some things for adults, and punish those who supply those things to children, but we also generally respect adults who act responsibly.
For example. We know second hand tobacco smoke has a detrimential effect on those in a room that don't smoke. So we don't approve of adults smoking around children or other adults indoors, and we have passed laws to enforce that. However, we don't go into their homes and test their childern for nicotine exposure, (a mind altering drug) and we wouldn't take those childern away from their parents if we found nicotine in the children's blood, even though we know the documented negative health effects. That include's pregant mothers, we don't test them for nicotine use even though we know it causes low birth weight and other problems, and we don't put them in prison. With marijuana, it would /should be the same level of concern. We know parents should not smoke it (or anything else) around their children, but it, by itself, would/should not be a reason to take the children away from a loving home. You may not approve of a couple's life style choices, but that, in itself, is no reason to try and impose your life choices on them.
Foster care, in other than life threatening situations, is not usually better than keeping a family together.
All of these other substances are harmful and toxic by themselves. Marijuana, which is non-toxic, is harmful because of it's illegality. If it were not for long prison terms, harsh fines, loss of job, property, possibly your children, and the potential death of your pets during a raid, marijuana would be the least problematic of all. And that is what is wrong with the current anti-marijuana laws.
The prospect of having your children taken away from you because you smoke marijuana, is only another tool in the arsenal of those who've been misled
by the government's long term and foolish position on marijuana and the great myth that they have created to substantiate their position. A casual study of the
history of America from it's founding, would clearly show you that the men who rebelled against the oppressive governance of their European masters, grew their
own pot and saw fit to serve whatever needs they had at that time, with the same hallucinogenic substance that we, 6 generations removed from them, are
still finding relief, in much the same way as they did back then.
Who can say whether or not, those that assembled themselves at Independence Hall, didn't "turn-on", right there on the front steps? George Washington,
the most revered among them was quite punctual in planting the hemp every year and because I'm reasonably certain that he wasn't weaving his own fabric
to clothe himself, that he had other things in mind at harvest time. I continue to question the fact that somehow, our administrators saw fit to blind themselves
to the example that was so clearly set by our founding fathers, so many years ago.
Perhaps another day will come when the emboldened government will again, take our children away under other twisted mandates, much like they did with
conscription into the military, with the draft and send them away to support their warmongering agenda, their hegemonic programs and those enviable perks, that
seem to come with the chosen class of Americans, those who rule us and lead us, with no discernible wisdom, in the downward direction of just where they, or we,
are steadfastly going. I don't feel as though my government is, of or by, the people any more, it has grown and become it's own self-serving entity and I have lost
so much faith in their ability to recover.
Good decision. This part worries me Can you imagine if pot were now a legitimate reason to take kids from their homes?
Children are taken from homes for much less. There was the infant that was taken from parents shortly after birth because they were both blind. So blind people are not allowed to reproduce and keep their children?
Children are taken from homes for much less. There was the infant that was taken from parents shortly after birth because they were both blind. So blind people are not allowed to reproduce and keep their children?
Good decision. This part worries me Can you imagine if pot were now a legitimate reason to take kids from their homes?
Jeez no offence it happens everyday in familly courts across the country. Father yelled a few times during the relationship so now baby is born, we need to protect mother and baby from the potentially abusive father or fear of potential abusive, so we limit his visitations and rights and even can switch custody to protect against something that can or hasn't happened.
Or one parent has a criminal record or bad background, we have to protect the children from a potentially bad parent so its supervised visitations or termination of parental rights even if there is no evidence on record that the parent is unfit or a bad parent by his/her actions.
I agree good decision, im just curious. If it had been dad or father would the decision been different? We have a big adoption case on another thread that kinda rings with the potential ideal where alot of ppl believe
the father should lose his rights for what is the best interests of the child.
No offense, there are real abusive situations out there that do need the protection of the courts. But its difficult to logically defend against ilogical logic. How does someone defend against someones elses fear or prejudice?
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So now that pot is legal in some communities I'm wondering what the law is concerning smoking around children?
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Yes, what about them?
