Ohio Is Very Hated On Social Media (Cincinnati, Kettering: renting, buyers)

[mshultz]

Originally Posted by KathrynAragon

Brrrrr. I have no idea how much salt they use.

Your vehicle will tell you after a few years. Modern vehicles can look good from above, while the structural components are rusted to the point that the vehicle is no longer safe.

[KathrynAragon]

Originally Posted by mshultz

Your vehicle will tell you after a few years. Modern vehicles can look good from above, while the structural components are rusted to the point that the vehicle is no longer safe.

Yuck. We don't use salt in NE Texas but there's not really a need.

[QCongress83216]

Originally Posted by KathrynAragon

Yuck. We don't use salt in NE Texas but there's not really a need.

What do they use in Texas when it snows?

[QCongress83216]

Originally Posted by jas75

I do think other states such as Ohio also have a lot to work with and the potential to be more prosperous and inclusive.

Care to elborate?

[KathrynAragon]

Originally Posted by QCongress83216

What do they use in Texas when it snows?

It's really hard to believe but most of Texas doesn't see enough snow to justify any equipment. For instance, here in NE Texas, we get one or two inches a year, and it's generally gone by noon. If needed, we generally use sand.

[ohio_peasant]

Originally Posted by QCongress83216

Care to elborate?

While I can't speak for the person to whom you responded, his/her quip prompts a question: why is it that cities like Austin, which are brutally hot, landlocked, and not particularly favored in terms of beautiful nature or proximity to major transportation hubs... nevertheless manage to attract copious amounts of start-ups, tech, innovation, corporate HQ and so on? What does Austin have, that say Cincinnati doesn't have?

[jcp123]

I e heard of this and can’t figure out why. I kinda like Ohio except for the fact that it’s a winter state, but that’s hardly limited to Ohio.

[QCongress83216]

Originally Posted by ohio_peasant

While I can't speak for the person to whom you responded, his/her quip prompts a question: why is it that cities like Austin, which are brutally hot, landlocked, and not particularly favored in terms of beautiful nature or proximity to major transportation hubs... nevertheless manage to attract copious amounts of start-ups, tech, innovation, corporate HQ and so on? What does Austin have, that say Cincinnati doesn't have?

I'm talking about weather, not tech or start-ups. Everybody's not into that. They like those places because of low taxes and the whole right-to-work thing. We get it, cities with tech/start-ups: good, Ohio: bad.

[ohio_peasant]

Originally Posted by QCongress83216

I'm talking about weather, not tech or start-ups. Everybody's not into that. They like those places because of low taxes and the whole right-to-work thing. We get it, cities with tech/start-ups: good, Ohio: bad.

I'm not a fan of Ohio weather, but it's hard to make the case that Austin's weather is in aggregate superior. The summers are brutal, the humidity is oppressive, and then there's the threat of tornadoes - at least as acute as in Ohio. If I'm going to deal with intense summer heat, might as well make the winters truly warm --> south Florida. But if the winters are cold for several months, might as well go for moderate summers and longer transitional seasons --> New England.

Taxes are a more serious issue. John Kasich did a lot of good, by reducing state income tax rates. Still, there are the insidious local income taxes, in some cases as high as 2.5%. And property tax, as a percentage of property market-value, is very high.

We should however ask ourselves: suppose that Ohio radically revised its tax system, to resemble say that of South Dakota or Florida or Washington State. Would that reverse economic decline? Would that start attracting start-ups, tech and corporate headquarters?

[mshultz]

When you compare all taxes, along with the cost of living, Ohio is quite competitive. Neither estate nor inheritance taxes, no personal property tax on your vehicle, and Ohio municipal bonds are free from federal, state, city, and school district taxes. Ohio insurance rates are also quite reasonable. Neither Florida nor Washington state have a low cost of living. Texas does not have an income tax, but makes it up on property taxes. Just like Tennessee makes it up on sales taxes.