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I gave the benefit of the doubt, but I wanted it understood the actual impact of this project on the already booming Glenwood South area. To expand some more, Tucker St. will be a main pedestrian connector between Glenwood South and Smoky Hollow, with an arcade that extends the walking experience into the core of phase two (office building + Line Apts). To further expand that experience on the west side of the elevated RR tracks, a developer has purchased the entire block bounded Tucker, North, Glenwood and the tracks to create another mixed use, multi-building project that's anchored by the historic Pine State Creamery Building with its butter churn final. It too will include a pedestrian plaza that will essentially biscect the block and allow development on the block while retaining the historic creamery. I attended a zoom meeting with the developer, designers and the local Glenwood South community. Like Kane is pursuing with phase 3 of Smoky Hollow, the creamery site is also pursuing upzoning of part of the parcel to 40 floors. This project is probably 18 months away from final design, presuming that everything moves along without friction and delay by the virus.
Thanks for the benefit of the doubt.
The rest of the area looks to get progressively more pedestrian interesting. I will say I don’t know the area like others, but it still looks like a development that itself will not be a pedestrian friendly area.
It reminds me of this development in Charlotte, bot necessarily the scope or use, but a development with outward street facing retail (West Elm, Sephora, etc) called Novel Atherton. It’s turned out to be more auto-oriented than pedestrian (though it’s in an extremely pedestrian friendly area, other devs are super walkable etc).
I think the problem is they added wayyy too much parking. It wraps around a huge parking deck. There needs to be less parking in general in Charlotte. Even if that means smaller scale projects. Not likely to happen but. At least let developers decide their parking minimums.
The rest of the area looks to get progressively more pedestrian interesting. I will say I don’t know the area like others, but it still looks like a development that itself will not be a pedestrian friendly area.
It reminds me of this development in Charlotte, bot necessarily the scope or use, but a development with outward street facing retail (West Elm, Sephora, etc) called Novel Atherton. It’s turned out to be more auto-oriented than pedestrian (though it’s in an extremely pedestrian friendly area, other devs are super walkable etc).
I think the problem is they added wayyy too much parking. It wraps around a huge parking deck. There needs to be less parking in general in Charlotte. Even if that means smaller scale projects. Not likely to happen but. At least let developers decide their parking minimums.
No problem regarding the benefit of the doubt. It's true that context matters on any project and this site had its challenges with the rail corridor along its west side and Capital to its east. For some backstory/context, in the last 2 decades, the emergence of Glenwood South has nearly been all on the other side of those RR tracks and up to St. Mary's St. where downtown Raleigh officially terminates on the NW side.
Back to the project at hand....The Smoky Hollow project isn't just activating the perimeter. In phase 2, the T shape pedestrian plaza/circulation will essentially create a storefront experience within the middle of the project. When full, there will be storefront facing West St., Harrington St., Johnson St., and within the core. I know that a digital brochure was posted previously, but here's the developer's website with more photos. Smoky Hollow | Kane Realty Corporation
Phase 1 of Smoky Hollow, which was the focal point of the video that I shared, is essentially a Publix supermarket topped by hundreds of luxury apartments. It's less engaging from a pedestrian point of view, but it's easily connected to Glenwood South by foot via the new extension of Johnson Street. On the other side & passing under the railroad tracks, Johnson immediately leads to a hotel, a mixed use office/condo building, an assisted living residence, more condos, a long term hotel/residence and hundreds of apartments, all within 3 blocks. So, in effect, there's a straight shot (and nearly flat) walking corridor between the Publix and all of that. Additionally, the bottom of the T in phase two also opens to Johnson St.
From Smoky Hollow toward the east via Peace St., the previously mentioned improvements to the bicycle and sidewalks via the new bridge project will provide walkability to The Cotton Mill condos and Zimmer's proposed tower (TBD). https://www.zdc.com/developer-seeks-...-raleigh/2019/ There are current concept renders that are either behind paywalls or at competing sites to C-D, so I will refrain from trying to link to them, but Google on if interested.
All in all, and as a 20+ year resident of this neighborhood on both its east and west side, I think that the developer did an amazing job of maximizing its potential.
There is a ton of interest and energy hitting this specific area for a variety of reasons, including its easy access to NC State, Cameron Village, the core of Downtown and accessibility to/from I-40 via Wade Ave. Also, the two existing rail corridors are in the mix as the high speed rail corridor and commuter rail options that lead to the nearby Union Station.
The Amphitheater structure is being put in place for the $29 million North Waterfront Park in downtown Wilmington...its impressive, almost the height of the adjacent 5 story apartment building...here is the conceptual drawings of the park that will be finished by Spring of 2021...
The Amphitheater structure is also very visible from Nutt Street and the Convention Center area. The Aloft Hotel at the end of Nutt Street is in the process of topping out...
The rest of the area looks to get progressively more pedestrian interesting. I will say I don’t know the area like others, but it still looks like a development that itself will not be a pedestrian friendly area.
It reminds me of this development in Charlotte, bot necessarily the scope or use, but a development with outward street facing retail (West Elm, Sephora, etc) called Novel Atherton. It’s turned out to be more auto-oriented than pedestrian (though it’s in an extremely pedestrian friendly area, other devs are super walkable etc).
I think the problem is they added wayyy too much parking. It wraps around a huge parking deck. There needs to be less parking in general in Charlotte. Even if that means smaller scale projects. Not likely to happen but. At least let developers decide their parking minimums.
Do you think that less parking will change people's transport choices? Are there enough within walking distance or is there a very, very, close rail station?
Because brick and mortar retail needs all the customers they can get.
I guess it comes down to at what point does travel by car become truly bad for an area.
Small and medium-sized towns can handle car travel just fine.
It does cause problems in bigger cities but it seems like if people want ground floor retail to thrive, they're going to require customers from all over and easy in and out access to that retail.
With Charlotte's concentrated new development around the rail line, some capacity for car travel gets added and maybe the two can co-exist.
Cars are going electric so air quality is less and less of an issue every year.
I guess it's just good to make sure the reasoning for what's deemed good or bad applies to every situation.
I hate those who hate all road maintenance, improvement period even though the population is growly exponentially by the day which the state and city spends tons of money trying to lure more and more.
Do you think that less parking will change people's transport choices? Are there enough within walking distance or is there a very, very, close rail station?
Because brick and mortar retail needs all the customers they can get.
I guess it comes down to at what point does travel by car become truly bad for an area.
Small and medium-sized towns can handle car travel just fine.
It does cause problems in bigger cities but it seems like if people want ground floor retail to thrive, they're going to require customers from all over and easy in and out access to that retail.
With Charlotte's concentrated new development around the rail line, some capacity for car travel gets added and maybe the two can co-exist.
Cars are going electric so air quality is less and less of an issue every year.
I guess it's just good to make sure the reasoning for what's deemed good or bad applies to every situation.
I hate those who hate all road maintenance, improvement period even though the population is growly exponentially by the day which the state and city spends tons of money trying to lure more and more.
Underground parking, parking with the deck in the back, Public parking decks are solutions.
Site is a former car dealership. The City has been working on revitalizing the district (which is adjacent to the Historic New Hanover High School and between the main Historic District and the Carolina Heights historic district)...
These districts are joining the Castle St Antique district, the Brooklyn Arts District, and South Front District and are all continuing to progress with new businesses and revitalization in Wilmington. They all are within a 16 block radius of downtown Wilmington.
On Tuesday, Capitol Broadcasting Co. and its development partners Hines and USAA Real Estate unveiled plans for a massive new mixed-use destination and the latest expansion of CBC's American Tobacco Campus in downtown Durham.
Plans call for three new towers plus structured parking at the site of the former University Ford property west of ATC – including a new multifamily high-rise up to 14 stories and a pair of state-of-the-art, mixed-use office buildings showcasing Hines’ newly developed all-timber construction concept.
Project is integrated into the existing Southport street network and will be annexed into the town. Will utilize the existing Marina. $565 million value project.
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