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The project and area looks like it’s destined to be a pedestrian dead zone for a long time. Hemmed in my a highway, a train track, the road looks really auto oriented, big blank walls stretching the sidewalk, the publix looks like it caters to vehicles.
On the bright side, it adds people - hopefully they buildings down the street are more ped. Friendly. The architecture is nice though. Looks quality.
The project and area looks like it’s destined to be a pedestrian dead zone for a long time. Hemmed in my a highway, a train track, the road looks really auto oriented, big blank walls stretching the sidewalk, the publix looks like it caters to vehicles.
On the bright side, it adds people - hopefully they buildings down the street are more ped. Friendly. The architecture is nice though. Looks quality.
Hmm....Actually that's not the case at all. If anything, Smoky Hollow expands pedestrian activity from Glenwood South that's immediately to its west. Certainly the train tracks move through the area as a mixture of elevated and at-grade tracks, but the way Smoky Hollow is coming together, it specifically expands Pedestrian activity through both Johnson and Tucker Streets to connect the two, plus it's including a pedestrian/retail corridor between The Line apartments an the office building within the project. With the reconstruction of the Capital Blvd. bridge over Peace street, the pedestrian experience to the Cotton Mill on the east side of Capital has been greatly improved. A future phase 3 tower, a possible phase 4 on its SE corner, and another tower across Capital are in the works for the future. In addition, the land across Peace to the north is scheduled to be a city park as it sits low in a flood plain on the parcel that used to house a minor league baseball team. The area within which all of this is happening replaces a collection of post WW2 single story office, warehouse and service type buildings, which had replaced the shacks of the former Smoky Hollow residents who typically had worked at the Raleigh Cotton Mills. Those shacks were raised when Capital Blvd (known then as Downtown Blvd) was built as a post war gentrification project.
Smoky Hollow also creates a walkable retail scene (including Publix) for The West, The Quorun Center, Link Apartments, The Metropolitan, and all of the residents in the Glenwood South corridor. The greater Glenwood South neighborhood continues to be the strongest collection of residents downtown, and it sits due north of the Warehouse District that has a development energy all its own with the recent completion of The Dillon and Raleigh's new Union Station. The parcels along Hillsborough Street between the Capitol Building and Boylan Avenue to the west are seeing significant development too that will soon connect the two districts into a more of a singular west side experience. In support of that vision, the RLine circulator was rerouted to run a N/S connection between Smoky Hollow and the Warehouse District.
^ What a bummer on the changes to the parking garage. The previous screening looked incredible and was one of the best garage screenings planned in the state, but it looks awful now
Yeah I hate the changes to the garage, but the overal building looks way better. Before the side facing elm street Looks way too suburban, wayyyyy too much brick, almost looks like hospital. Updated design is 100x better.
Yeah I hate the changes to the garage, but the overal building looks way better. Before the side facing elm street Looks way too suburban, wayyyyy too much brick, almost looks like hospital. Updated design is 100x better.
The old rendering looks more like a dated brick design from the late 70s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cgvem5sxhM
FWIW, this is the video put out 4 years about the recently completed improvements on Capital Blvd., and its intersections with Wade Ave., and notably for the discussion about Smoky Hollow, Peace Street. In the video you will see how the city has improved both the pedestrian and bike infrastructure at that intersection, and you will also see what was there prior to the Smoky Hollow development. There's just a massive amount of change happening in that immediate area compared to the video that I previously posted.
The square loop property specifically noted in the video is Smoky Hollow's phase 3, which I believe has been up-zoned to 40 floors. No word yet on what the developer has planned for that parcel, and I have to presume that the pandemic will have some sort of effect on its future.
Hmm....Actually that's not the case at all. If anything, Smoky Hollow expands pedestrian activity from Glenwood South that's immediately to its west. Certainly the train tracks move through the area as a mixture of elevated and at-grade tracks, but the way Smoky Hollow is coming together, it specifically expands Pedestrian activity through both Johnson and Tucker Streets to connect the two, plus it's including a pedestrian/retail corridor between The Line apartments an the office building within the project. With the reconstruction of the Capital Blvd. bridge over Peace street, the pedestrian experience to the Cotton Mill on the east side of Capital has been greatly improved. A future phase 3 tower, a possible phase 4 on its SE corner, and another tower across Capital are in the works for the future. In addition, the land across Peace to the north is scheduled to be a city park as it sits low in a flood plain on the parcel that used to house a minor league baseball team. The area within which all of this is happening replaces a collection of post WW2 single story office, warehouse and service type buildings, which had replaced the shacks of the former Smoky Hollow residents who typically had worked at the Raleigh Cotton Mills. Those shacks were raised when Capital Blvd (known then as Downtown Blvd) was built as a post war gentrification project.
Smoky Hollow also creates a walkable retail scene (including Publix) for The West, The Quorun Center, Link Apartments, The Metropolitan, and all of the residents in the Glenwood South corridor. The greater Glenwood South neighborhood continues to be the strongest collection of residents downtown, and it sits due north of the Warehouse District that has a development energy all its own with the recent completion of The Dillon and Raleigh's new Union Station. The parcels along Hillsborough Street between the Capitol Building and Boylan Avenue to the west are seeing significant development too that will soon connect the two districts into a more of a singular west side experience. In support of that vision, the RLine circulator was rerouted to run a N/S connection between Smoky Hollow and the Warehouse District.
Yep ^
Some more photos of the rest of the project as it nears completion of phase 2.
The project and area looks like it’s destined to be a pedestrian dead zone for a long time. Hemmed in my a highway, a train track, the road looks really auto oriented, big blank walls stretching the sidewalk, the publix looks like it caters to vehicles.
On the bright side, it adds people - hopefully they buildings down the street are more ped. Friendly. The architecture is nice though. Looks quality.
No it won't it's literally right there by glenwood south a already popular area, the people living all around there only had the convenience store by the Hibernian, and the Fresh Market and Harris Teeter in Cameron Village. The Publix alone(not including the other retail that is part of the project) is gonna drive the traffic because now everyone can walk 30 seconds to get groceries.
No it won't it's literally right there by glenwood south a already popular area, the people living all around there only had the convenience store by the Hibernian, and the Fresh Market and Harris Teeter in Cameron Village. The Publix alone(not including the other retail that is part of the project) is gonna drive the traffic because now everyone can walk 30 seconds to get groceries.
I gave the benefit of the doubt, but I wanted it understood the actual impact of this project on the already booming Glenwood South area. To expand some more, Tucker St. will be a main pedestrian connector between Glenwood South and Smoky Hollow, with an arcade that extends the walking experience into the core of phase two (office building + Line Apts). To further expand that experience on the west side of the elevated RR tracks, a developer has purchased the entire block bounded Tucker, North, Glenwood and the tracks to create another mixed use, multi-building project that's anchored by the historic Pine State Creamery Building with its butter churn final. It too will include a pedestrian plaza that will essentially biscect the block and allow development on the block while retaining the historic creamery. I attended a zoom meeting with the developer, designers and the local Glenwood South community. Like Kane is pursuing with phase 3 of Smoky Hollow, the creamery site is also pursuing upzoning of part of the parcel to 40 floors. This project is probably 18 months away from final design, presuming that everything moves along without friction and delay by the virus.
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