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Old 10-27-2009, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Bay Area
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I like how everyone is lecturing this kid to grow up and take responsibility for his situation. Well excuse me, but doesn't seeking to enforce his rights pursuant a written agreement constitute doing just that? I smell a ton of resentment and jealousy from people whose parents couldn't or wouldn't help out with college.
Agreed! Too many bitter people on this forum.

This is a legal and binding document and the father is responsible for the college payments and it should be enforced. The father sounds like a deadbeat and should not be allowed to get away with this. It disgusts me how quickly people jump on this kid.
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Old 10-27-2009, 05:05 PM
 
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Personally, I would never sue my parents for not giving me money.

My parents divorced when I was very young and it was the agreement that my father and mother would each pay half for my college education. It didn't happen that way. My mom kept her end of the bargain, but my father did not. I never once thought about suing my father for not footing the bill. I think it says a lot about you as a person - not only that you assumed you would get a free ride and took advantage of it - but also now that you are looking to someone to blame for your frittering away the money that was given to you (and, yes, if you're going to CC, you've been given more than enough money to do it with).

Welcome to reality, kiddo.
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Old 10-27-2009, 05:57 PM
 
Location: DFW
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I try to deal with reality, not what I could do in a perfect world.

I tried to say in an earlier post but failed that more then likely is that your father is a person you can't trust and does not live up to his word.

You can sue him, threaten him or whatever to him but if he is dishonest person then he will be dishonest today & tomorrow. Even with an attorney and you are right you probably have a 10-20% chance of actually collecting some money so you can try. I'd put the man out of my life and go become the next Bill Gates.

Someday he may come to you looking for a handout then you can either have the last laugh or pity the fool & give him some money.

Either way you become the winner.
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Old 10-27-2009, 07:49 PM
 
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Thanks everyone very insightful. I didnt realize this thread would become this big.
My dad used to work for Solmon Brothers right after college...worked his way up... My mom was more of a saver so even if my Dad was making money, she wasnt one of those OC housewives. We were always disciplined and not given many things at all. Though Yes I was privledged to be raised in a nicer area where Crime is low. Had I grown up the way I did on the streets of a lot of gangs and crime, it would of been different for sure. Anyways its kind of pitiful but when me and my sister used to visit him in Japan he always had really nice looking girls (later find out to be escorts) hanging out with us when we used to go to parks or whatever. And trust me, I don't just side with one parent because I am living with my mom. I listen to what she has to say and see for myself what kind of living and work my Dad does and decide for myself.
He does live in a Really High Security Apartment in Japan in a nice area where many celebs live as well...and just fyi Real Estate in Japan is VERY EXPENSIVE.
Ive always seen him pay with a black american express card in my own eyes.
He used to drive one of the new mercedez.now a jaguar van for his "new" family.
The reason why I think my Mom enforced he pay us for college is My Mom was always saving for me and my sisters college education, until he spent every single dime on a mistress for 10k a month.

I didnt believe my Mom at first, but later he admits to it in person and a lot of drama.
I dont know how many times ive said this, But I know Many people work their way through college.
I dont think im entitled to anything, but its the way I grew up. I used to eat out of TRASH CANS, ate everything i can in my friends fridge, did a lot of bad things just to survive.You might not be able to comprehend, but trying to "survive" when all the kids around u have New Mercedez and BMWS for high school is a real alienation.
As much as I would like to have a relationship with my Dad, hes decieved me so many times its disgusting. I just want What He said He will give me and Move on.

5,000 is def enough for CC. But then again the only reason why i went to CC instead of a better school is because I did not have the money. That is why i chose to go to a CC for the first 2 years and save money.

Once this semster is over, I plan to get legal aid and see what they have to say.
But thanks again guys, Ive learned a lot.
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Old 10-29-2009, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Kansas City Metro area
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I am not s lawyer, but I have been divorced twice with children. The divorce is a Court order between the two parties, petitioner and respondent, it is not a contract, or an agreement. It is enforceble in Court usually with the Judge, or jurisdiction that issued the ruling. The two parties may agree on the property settlement but the Judge issues the order. I believe the mother will have to be involved to take this back to Court in most States. Most good attorneys will do a consult for free the first time to see if you have a case or standing in Court....
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:16 AM
 
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I would suggest you grow the hell up. How about getting a bloody job and making your own way in the world? No one owes you a thing.

You're acting like a baby with an entitlement attitude.
Agreed.

I don't see any possible scenario where suing your dad is the right thing to do.
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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I am not s lawyer, but I have been divorced twice with children. The divorce is a Court order between the two parties, petitioner and respondent, it is not a contract, or an agreement. It is enforceble in Court usually with the Judge, or jurisdiction that issued the ruling. The two parties may agree on the property settlement but the Judge issues the order. I believe the mother will have to be involved to take this back to Court in most States. Most good attorneys will do a consult for free the first time to see if you have a case or standing in Court....
If the court order affects the rights of a third party, that party has independent standing to sue for enforcement of the terms of the agreement as pertains to those rights.
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:21 AM
 
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I like how everyone is lecturing this kid to grow up and take responsibility for his situation. Well excuse me, but doesn't seeking to enforce his rights pursuant a written agreement constitute doing just that?
No, "enforcing your rights" does not magically make you responsible person.
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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No, "enforcing your rights" does not necessarily make you responsible.
And why not? What does it make a person?
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:25 AM
 
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And why not? What does it make a person?
What does it make them? Other than a plantiff, nothing. It is a legal concept, not a moral concept.
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