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Old 04-16-2018, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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That’s fine, but don’t come over when you need something and expect me to drop everything to help you. So that is when the shoe was on the other foot. He certainly acknowledged me when he needed me. A simple ‘ thank you’ is just a matter of respect. Maybe in your life respect is not important. It is in mine.

Several posts have stated that parents don’t like to have their kids criticized. I agree. Maybe that’s why so many kids grow up unaware of basic social graces, and how to fit in and succeed in adult society. Nobody expects parents to like it, but the kids who grow up thinking they are never wrong, and that mommy and daddy will always take their side no matter what, those are the kids you see on the news all too often.
It is not your job to give input on another’s kid. Frankly, unless the kid is danger to himself, or she is damaging your property, you need to keep your opinions about behavior to yourself.

Your comment to your neighbor about her son was hurtful. I don’t know another more tactful way of saying this. But it is the honest truth. Your words were hurtful.

This is my honest reply to your post.
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Old 04-16-2018, 02:36 PM
 
Location: The Jar
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Jack Nicholson's character in A Few Good Men:
"You can't handle the truth!"

Well, that's pretty much every one walking around on the planet.
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Mt. Lebanon
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these are two separate threads here. First is the general question about being able to have a completely honest relationship. I am going to say no. 100% honest no. Maybe 98-99, 99.9 but 100% no way. Even in the best marriage you will find a bit of a white- not harmful- lie.

The example with the neighbor... unless you were really good friends them, who cares? why should you be offended by their kid? it's not your responsibility or problem. obviously they didn't do a good job teaching him manners when he was small. that won't be my concern.

I also would be careful offering criticism left and right. You might think criticism = sincerity but the way you tell it to someone might break a friendship or put a spouse down. so exercise caution.
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:10 PM
 
Location: NY in body, Mayberry in spirit.
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It is not your job to give input on another’s kid. Frankly, unless the kid is danger to himself, or she is damaging your property, you need to keep your opinions about behavior to yourself.

Your comment to your neighbor about her son was hurtful. I don’t know another more tactful way of saying this. But it is the honest truth. Your words were hurtful.

This is my honest reply to your post.
It’s never anybody’s ‘job’ to comment about anyone, unless your in the media. We all do it anyway. Maybe more parents should be able to handle a little criticism about their kids once in awhile. Maybe if someone told Mrs. Dahmer her son Jeffrey was torturing small animals, and she needed to address his issues, people’s lives could have been saved. But none of you would want to criticize little Jeffrey, now would you?
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:53 PM
 
Location: In a place beyond human comprehension
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It’s never anybody’s ‘job’ to comment about anyone, unless your in the media. We all do it anyway. Maybe more parents should be able to handle a little criticism about their kids once in awhile. Maybe if someone told Mrs. Dahmer her son Jeffrey was torturing small animals, and she needed to address his issues, people’s lives could have been saved. But none of you would want to criticize little Jeffrey, now would you?
While I agree a lot of parents could be doing a better job raising their kids....

You're comparing apples to oranges in this situation...

This kid wasn't murdering animals or hurting anybody. He lacked "manners." Maybe people need to learn to choose their battles wisely.
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Rochester, WA
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I heard a comedian once say "If women knew what men were actually thinking they would never stop slapping us."

That's probably true.

No, most people really don't want to know what you think most of the time.

Do you want to know what all of us think? Really?
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Old 04-16-2018, 05:48 PM
 
Location: NY in body, Mayberry in spirit.
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I heard a comedian once say "If women knew what men were actually thinking they would never stop slapping us."

That's probably true.

No, most people really don't want to know what you think most of the time.

Do you want to know what all of us think? Really?
I care what some people think. Probably not you.
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Old 04-16-2018, 05:50 PM
 
Location: NY in body, Mayberry in spirit.
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While I agree a lot of parents could be doing a better job raising their kids....

You're comparing apples to oranges in this situation...

This kid wasn't murdering animals or hurting anybody. He lacked "manners." Maybe people need to learn to choose their battles wisely.
I don’t believe in backing down. Never did, never will.
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Old 04-16-2018, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Rochester, WA
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I care what some people think. Probably not you.
Aw shucks.
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Old 04-16-2018, 07:45 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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Sort of reminds me of a suggestion someone once gave me about deciding how to handle other people. Before you open your mouth, try to imagine what would be written on your tombstone/obituary/said about you after you are gone. Then adjust accordingly.

"Well, you know Bobby, he was always honest. Yeah, he was always a d*&k about it too."
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