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Old 08-14-2015, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Boilermaker Territory
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Ok, last minute contender.

We found a house we love in New Hampton. Give me some info on this town please. How would it compare for us to the other towns we narrowed it down too? We really, really like this house a lot.

BTW it's not in town, it's on the outskirts but it is a New Hampton address.
The town center is very small, west of 93. The rural areas are on both sides of 93 stretching from Carter Mountain road in the SW to Winona Rd in the NE. I don't really have much of an opinion on it as it does not have a strong identity due to the fact that the vast majority of the populace is spread out on rural roads everywhere. Meredith has a higher town population base and would be where you would find many of your basic amenities.
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Old 08-14-2015, 06:07 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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This thread is a perfect illustration of Religion in The North Country.

People actually do have strong opinions about it, and ties to it. But generally, we don't talk about it in public because everyone's opinions are different, and our nature is to keep that private. This is M.Y.O.B. Country, and most of us like it very much this way.

NH and VT constantly get put on "Least Religious" lists but I agree that the data doesn't necessarily reflect the spiritual reality of the area. We are just very diverse in the respect, and don't generally put that religiousness out public.
Except statistics don't bear this out - religious service attendance is low in New England as well. You can call it whatever you want, but part of being religious is participating in religion, and fewer people do it here than anywhere else, save perhaps the Pacific Northwest.

The implication that if something is subject to multiple opinions it shouldn't be discussed in public (aka virtually anywhere) is bewildering to me. A better and much more likely explanation is that people from the North East simply don't care about religion much.
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Old 08-14-2015, 06:43 PM
 
Location: WMHT
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Except statistics don't bear this out - religious service attendance is low in New England as well. You can call it whatever you want, but part of being religious is participating in religion, and fewer people do it here than anywhere else, save perhaps the Pacific Northwest.

The implication that if something is subject to multiple opinions it shouldn't be discussed in public (aka virtually anywhere) is bewildering to me. A better and much more likely explanation is that people from the North East simply don't care about religion much.
Along with church attendance, Maine Vermont and New Hampshire also rank at the bottom for charitable giving, with NH being ranked lowest of all states for tithing and religious giving.
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Old 08-14-2015, 10:56 PM
 
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Look for towns with no money and lousy school systems and you will be getting close to your requirements. Berlin might suit you well as the main industry is a privately owned prison.

Some consider New Hampshire to be social liberal if they mean that to be people that mind their own business and do not shove their social agenda on anyone.

Geez, and based on your former posts I thought you have lived in NH a long time. I bailed from Windham well over decade ago, as the transplants from MA hadn't quite ruined it yet (though we were FAR more conservative long ago than the long-term natives). Londonderry... We also had a place there on a lake, but we used it for rental property, as the town had the highest percentile of pedophiles, per capita, of any town in Rockingham county and I refused to ever go there as there are far better lakes FAR out west (in the U.S.) We kept the place in Bedford, as it seemed to keep many of the fiscally-liberal, not socially-liberal out (haven't been there in a while)...

Want good schools, towns with lots of money, and access to one of the better schools (Pinkerton Academy, though it ain't no Phillips Academy), there are still good places in NH.
Greg, though, you have described Londonderry to a tee.. "with no money and lousy school systems". I would offer a debate, but with my direct experience with outcome (and ongoing outcomes) of direct offspring/relatives formerly living in other specific areas of NH, Londonerry fits that description perfectly. Anger management needed?

You have posted two statements that demonstate classic hypocrasy... first, slamming someone seeking advice about a socially conservative town to seek in NH to try an extreme solution, and then stating that social liberals are trying to 'shove' their social agendas on others. Me thinks you are trying to 'shove' your agenda to influence those that have a relatively open mind. Not everyone that has a different opinion from you is 'wrong'.
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Old 08-15-2015, 03:24 AM
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Location: MA/NH
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Along with church attendance, Maine Vermont and New Hampshire also rank at the bottom for charitable giving, with NH being ranked lowest of all states for tithing and religious giving.
Maybe it's because both states are so rural in nature. Most people don't have jobs that leave them with an excess in income to spend on tithing. New Englanders are a frugal lot. And it's because the long and cold winters mean high heating and snow removal costs. And our growing season is short, so that impacts the farming community. Plus we are tithed enough with our high property taxes, which is a forced donation to our school systems.

Anyway, when one draws up lists comparing all 50 states, of course some will have to fill the bottom slots. There is no shame in being the least generous in religious giving. I find Mormon temples to be excessive and ostentatious. I am relieved that we aren't home to any of those awful and fake tv evangelists that are so common in the Bible Belt. And generous tithing is not an indication of how spiritual one is, it's more of a showoff move as the ministries try to make it a giving competition between their wealthy churchgoers. And I like our small simple churches in New England. They fit our landscape nicely.
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Old 08-15-2015, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Maybe it's because both states are so rural in nature. Most people don't have jobs that leave them with an excess in income to spend on tithing. New Englanders are a frugal lot. And it's because the long and cold winters mean high heating and snow removal costs. And our growing season is short, so that impacts the farming community. Plus we are tithed enough with our high property taxes, which is a forced donation to our school systems.

Anyway, when one draws up lists comparing all 50 states, of course some will have to fill the bottom slots. There is no shame in being the least generous in religious giving. I find Mormon temples to be excessive and ostentatious. I am relieved that we aren't home to any of those awful and fake tv evangelists that are so common in the Bible Belt. And generous tithing is not an indication of how spiritual one is, it's more of a showoff move as the ministries try to make it a giving competition between their wealthy churchgoers. And I like our small simple churches in New England. They fit our landscape nicely.
How true..something Christ spoke of himself
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Old 08-15-2015, 07:45 AM
 
Location: NH
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Umm... that's because NH and VT are extremely small states by land mass and because of both states are extremely rural. We don't have enough people to compete with the larger states for number of churchgoers. What would we do with mega churches (ick!!!)? And they would look silly in our landscape and empty because of how few townsfolk are in them.

And imo those mega-churches are just symbols of those churches showing off how skilled those ministries are in brainwashing their followers to donate in large amounts. Surely their god is not impressed by the size of their mega-church and it would be money better spent giving back to poor in their communities.


But why then, do most religious church-going people think that they are more moral than non-believers? Because that's what I keep hearing from them even as what I see is that they have no work ethic (feeling justified in stealing by their lazyiness on the job) and arrange their income stream in order to collect the most government benefits.
Yes what you say about mega-churches is true in terms of MH not having a huge population. Though hypothetically it could have a mega-church in Nashua orbmanchester if enough people attended. I would venture to say that mega churches have allot of wealthy attendees who donate gladly, get involved, and are not brainwashed. I highly doubt the lower income donate proportionately to the higher income. The larger the church attendance the wealthier the church is going to be, obviously.

I can't speak to this: these selfish coworkers of yours who claim to be Christians, as I do not know the context or even how accurate you're description is. They sound like they could be attending church just to take advantage of the charity they will receive there, and this stealing behavior spills over to their place of employment.
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Old 08-17-2015, 06:50 AM
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As the thread continues remember there is a separate religion forum where you can discuss what you personally believe or whether evolution is real
Keep doing it here and your posts will be deleted and I will be forced to punish you.
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Old 08-17-2015, 03:18 PM
 
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As the thread continues remember there is a separate religion forum where you can discuss what you personally believe or whether evolution is real
Keep doing it here and your posts will be deleted and I will be forced to punish you.
Yac.
Yes, now back to New Hampton, does anyone know where this town leans? We need to decide on this house this week. Any and all info on new Hampton and the surrounding area would be great. It doesn't seem like a Keene kind of liberal area, at all. But you can only tell so much in such a short time.
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Old 08-17-2015, 03:56 PM
 
Location: WMHT
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Exclamation New Hampton voters approved 2-1 a resolution in opposition to "The Pledge" (The pledge opposes sales and income taxes)

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Yes, now back to New Hampton, does anyone know where this town leans? We need to decide on this house this week. Any and all info on new Hampton and the surrounding area would be great. It doesn't seem like a Keene kind of liberal area, at all. But you can only tell so much in such a short time.
Definitely not like Keene, but New Hampton maybe a little less "socially conservative" than you would like, but probably not in ways which would negatively impact your quality of life.
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