Star Wars, Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker (dvd, Ewan McGregor, best)
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TFA and TLJ already threw this trilogy off a cliff.
TRS was the best of the three, imo, and the only one that didn't bore me to death.
TRS was just The Return of the Jedi redone, just as TFA was just Star Wars redone. I was very quickly bored by both, as I realized I’d already seen them when I was younger (and the stories fresh). (TLJ was just weird, although at least it tried not to be a beat-for-beat retelling of Empire, so I have to give it a bit of credit.)
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The whole idea of a sequel trilogy was half-baked and fraught with problems.
They should have stuck with the stand-alone stuff.
I couldn’t agree more! A sequel trilogy was unnecessary; fresh new stories were what was needed. New characters given something new to do, that was the way Disney should have gone.
I couldn’t agree more! A sequel trilogy was unnecessary; fresh new stories were what was needed. New characters given something new to do, that was the way Disney should have gone.
That seems like the consensus. From everyone I talk to, Rogue One seems to be more popular than any of the new Trilogy Films. I actually didn't mind the Solo film, although I know I'm in the minority on that one. At least as a standalone, it didn't mess anything up and I found it pretty entertaining.
People say that the previous prequel trilogy, while flawed, at least had a cohesive story line that blended into the originals. The latest trilogy was just choppy, and didn't really captivate.
That seems like the consensus. From everyone I talk to, Rogue One seems to be more popular than any of the new Trilogy Films. I actually didn't mind the Solo film, although I know I'm in the minority on that one. At least as a standalone, it didn't mess anything up and I found it pretty entertaining.
People say that the previous prequel trilogy, while flawed, at least had a cohesive story line that blended into the originals. The latest trilogy was just choppy, and didn't really captivate.
I'm not sure that not having a sequel trilogy was a bad idea. I think that they rushed into it before being properly familiar with the OT, PT and Extended Universe enough to make rational decisions on plots and storylines. Pretty much as soon as Disney announced the ST they announced that the Extended Universe was non-canon and would only base the trilogy on the Lucas movies.
It may have been sensible to start with baby steps and put out movies within the timelines of Episodes I-Vi Not only are there interesting characters in the first 6 movies that were only quickly onscreen and might deserve exploring, but, it would also give screenwriters and directors enough space to play without falling off a cliff.
That seems like the consensus. From everyone I talk to, Rogue One seems to be more popular than any of the new Trilogy Films. I actually didn't mind the Solo film, although I know I'm in the minority on that one. At least as a standalone, it didn't mess anything up and I found it pretty entertaining.
People say that the previous prequel trilogy, while flawed, at least had a cohesive story line that blended into the originals. The latest trilogy was just choppy, and didn't really captivate.
I thought Solo was okay, but would have found a better home as a Disney+ miniseries like The Mandalorian. It needed more space for a deeper and more measured story of how a good kid was turned sour.
I'm not sure that not having a sequel trilogy was a bad idea. I think that they rushed into it before being properly familiar with the OT, PT and Extended Universe enough to make rational decisions on plots and storylines. Pretty much as soon as Disney announced the ST they announced that the Extended Universe was non-canon and would only base the trilogy on the Lucas movies.
It may have been sensible to start with baby steps and put out movies within the timelines of Episodes I-Vi Not only are there interesting characters in the first 6 movies that were only quickly onscreen and might deserve exploring, but, it would also give screenwriters and directors enough space to play without falling off a cliff.
A sequel trilogy is a good idea. Lucas had planned one decades ago, and I'd like to know what his outline was for it.
They should have licensed some of the plot elements from some of the books and run with those, as Clone Wars and Rebels did successfully.
A sequel trilogy is a good idea. Lucas had planned one decades ago, and I'd like to know what his outline was for it.
From what little I've heard of it, no, you really don't! Apparently it involved midiclorians being the home of microscopic alien beings who used people as hosts: https://www.indiewire.com/2018/06/ge...ix-1201974276/
Whatever mess Disney goes on to make of the various Star Wars sequels, at least they have spared us THAT!
From what little I've heard of it, no, you really don't! Apparently it involved midiclorians being the home of microscopic alien beings who used people as hosts: https://www.indiewire.com/2018/06/ge...ix-1201974276/
It's a little more complicated than that, although midichlorians were definitely in play.
A sequel trilogy is a good idea. Lucas had planned one decades ago, and I'd like to know what his outline was for it.
Lucas's original ideas definitely had some problems. But hey, at least he had a story idea. He had a reason for the story. Disney obviously did not. Disney's sole motivation for episodes VII, VIII, and IX was simply $$$. J.J. Abrams has admitted that they started filming Episode VII before they even had a script. Rian Johnson apparently went in with the motive to completely refocus STAR WARS; not a bad idea in and of itself, but Johnson did it badly. And Episode IX ... ? Just a mess. An unmitigated mess.
Here is the thing that Hollywood execs just don't want to understand: Writing matters. You can hire the best actors, sink millions into special effects, spend millions on marketing and promotion, and if the story isn't there, none of it will ultimately matter. Disney had no story.
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They should have licensed some of the plot elements from some of the books and run with those, as Clone Wars and Rebels did successfully.
Disney wouldn't need to license anything. They own it all.
Some good things came out of the books, comics, and cartoons. But there is a lot of garbage too.
Here is the thing that Hollywood execs just don't want to understand: Writing matters.
You nailed it. It's unfathomable to me that Disney didn't sit down and write a story synopsis for the entire trilogy before beginning to film it. How could it be anything but an incoherent mess, given that the directors had no idea of where the story was supposed to go (because there was no overarching story had been written)?
Unfortunately Disney has made enough money off of the films that they may not have learned this lesson.
Disney wouldn't need to license anything. They own it all.
Some good things came out of the books, comics, and cartoons. But there is a lot of garbage too.
I said "plot elements." I didn't say use all of it.
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