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is Boko Haram off? how about Isis ? i mean their aim is to topple corrupt undemocratic immoral and abusive governments under which many people suffer in the Mid East and to throw of what they feel is US hegemony ... isnt that a laudable goal? - are their solutions just off?- the 911 hijackers had a good reason no???
KM wanted to KILL anyone that didnt agree with him and destroy anyplace that was in power
he is certainly worthy to be a villian but i dont see how you can possibly be sympathetic to a guy that believes the way you "make things better" is by doing the **** that you said made things worse to begin with...
the guy was going to BE the very thing he said made his life miserable.....
His means were off. Arming everyon is a dumb idea. That doesn't mean his intentions were a problem. His methids sucked, but I think he still had an impact on the outcomes.
I got major problems with this movie. How do you paint a black American as the bad guy? Really from the opening jump, black Americans are presented as thugs and animals, talking about "pass me the glock"! Anyway, it's funny how this movie is supposed to be uplifting to black people, but all it does is cast black America in a bad light.
At the end the movie, after T'Challa illegally took back the throne, he then goes to the UN to share his vast wealth with the world, which we know will mostly be white nations. The ending that should have taken place is sharing that wealth with black people all over the world. No, all we get is charity. Much like Obama was for black Americans. T'Challa is Obama.
EXACTLY!!! They did a great job of making Killmonger respresent the despotic, tyrannical African dictator whose poor leadership ruins what could have been a strong, progressive, wealthy, prosperous, and independent African nation. He was the antithesis of T'Challa and everything that had been good about Wakanda. Don't know how more people didn't get that. I guess they were too wrapped up in his over the top Pan-Africanist diatribes to see it. Killmonger's character delivered the themes of African dictatorship as well as Pan-Africanism and the rift between African Americans and Continental Africans, but I guess some viewers got too caught up in the latter to recognize the former.
What are you saying, the Wakandans were some pretty awful people. Shutting themselves away when they had the power to stop the colonization of Africa, and stop the slave trades. This was the wealthiest nation on earth, and they shut themselves away, allowing for billions of others to suffer. Is this the great Wakanda that you talk about? That place needed to burn for its sins. If Killmonger would have went on and destroyed Wakanda from the inside out, then good! He was actually going to spread the wealth of Wakanda to black people all over the world. If black people got rich due to Wakanda's downfall, awesome! That's my take concerning the message of this movie.
What are you saying, the Wakandans were some pretty awful people. Shutting themselves away when they had the power to stop the colonization of Africa, and stop the slave trades. This was the wealthiest nation on earth, and they shut themselves away, allowing for billions of others to suffer. Is this the great Wakanda that you talk about? That place needed to burn for its sins. If Killmonger would have went on and destroyed Wakanda from the inside out, then good! He was actually going to spread the wealth of Wakanda to black people all over the world. If black people got rich due to Wakanda's downfall, awesome! That's my take concerning the message of this movie.
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But his plan was to give the black diaspora vibranium guns. Not exactly lasting wealth.
The plan was totally flawed. There is a saying about you cant use the masters rules to,take over the house tgat is pretty apt here.
Well, what people are failing to see is that the Black Panther movie is being put in the arena of superhero movies that make hundreds of millions of dollars and sometime billions of dollars internationally. However, the other movies that you mentioned didn't even come close to that. Therefore, this is the 'first' black or people of color superhero movie to play in that arena.
That being said it can be argued that you would not have an MCU if not for blade. the superhero movie was almost dead in 1998 when blade came out. none of the studios wanted to touch them after the poor returns and critical response of the last 2 batman movies of the 90's and superman 4. and all the marvel properties bombed(look up captain america, doctor strange, punisher and fantastic four from the 80's 90's) basically the superhero movie was on deaths door in ICU and blade was the defibrillator then a flood of "good" superhero movies were being made then after.
But his plan was to give the black diaspora vibranium guns. Not exactly lasting wealth.
The plan was totally flawed. There is a saying about you cant use the masters rules to,take over the house tgat is pretty apt here.
It wasn't flawed, it was just too violent for your taste. Well, revolutions aren't pretty. The oppression going on that Killmonger saw, wasn't pretty. So we can't judge him for his dealings, and not judge the people who created him. The great equalizer here of course was the vibranium. The masters didn't have that technology. You could literally heal people from every sickness and even mortal wounds with this stuff. You could form it into anything you wanted it to be. Most likely, Killmonger's plan would have succeeded. Or at the very least, now black people would have been respected all over the world, leveling the playing field as I said. This is what Killmonger was going to do.
T'Challa on the other hand wanted to horde all the resources for himself and the Wakandans. They isolated themselves even though they knew what was happening in the world around them. Yet here we are saying Killmonger was the crazy one, and cheering for Wakanda.
Black Panther is the 4th film to ever hit $100M+ its 2nd weekend domestically with $108M, $400M total and is currently sitting at $704 million at the box office after only 10 days and it’s not even out in Japan or China yet. I'm gonna guestimate a $1.350 billion ending amount (which will put it past The Last Jedi).
It wasn't flawed, it was just too violent for your taste. Well, revolutions aren't pretty. The oppression going on that Killmonger saw, wasn't pretty. So we can't judge him for his dealings, and not judge the people who created him. The great equalizer here of course was the vibranium. The masters didn't have that technology. You could literally heal people from every sickness and even mortal wounds with this stuff. You could form it into anything you wanted it to be. Most likely, Killmonger's plan would have succeeded. Or at the very least, now black people would have been respected all over the world, leveling the playing field as I said. This is what Killmonger was going to do.
T'Challa on the other hand wanted to horde all the resources for himself and the Wakandans. They isolated themselves even though they knew what was happening in the world around them. Yet here we are saying Killmonger was the crazy one, and cheering for Wakanda.
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Killmomger didn't advocate for sending raw virbranium out to the rest of the world - he was sending guns. I could get in board if he took the vibranium and sent some Shuri developed training manuals about al kf the applications.
Besides the fact having fancy guns when you are out numbered isn't exactly a winning strategy. Buerilla warfare with sleeper agents all lver the world? seriously? The villain's plan in the second Kingsman made a lot more sense.
He also decided to burn all of the healing vibranium hearts so there could be no other kings, knowing full well those hearts were a life saving substance.
He was a megalomaniac. While he wanted to "save" the world, he was going to kill anyome in the way of his grand ambition, even innocents.
And while he claimed he wanted black liberation, he was fine killing black people while he was in the military
He was a flawed guy.
Killmonger's motivations for black liberation were admirable, but his process wasn't what I'd call a good version of by any means necessary or well thought out. The Wakandans had acted selfishly over the years, but counteracting structures hundres of years in the making can't be undone in five minutes.
Killmomger didn't advocate for sending raw virbranium out to the rest of the world - he was sending guns. I could get in board if he took the vibranium and sent some Shuri developed training manuals about al kf the applications.
Besides the fact having fancy guns when you are out numbered isn't exactly a winning strategy. Buerilla warfare with sleeper agents all lver the world? seriously? The villain's plan in the second Kingsman made a lot more sense.
He also decided to burn all of the healing vibranium hearts so there could be no other kings, knowing full well those hearts were a life saving substance.
He was a megalomaniac. While he wanted to "save" the world, he was going to kill anyome in the way of his grand ambition, even innocents.
And while he claimed he wanted black liberation, he was fine killing black people while he was in the military
He was a flawed guy.
Killmonger's motivations for black liberation were admirable, but his process wasn't what I'd call a good version of by any means necessary or well thought out. The Wakandans had acted selfishly over the years, but counteracting structures hundres of years in the making can't be undone in five minutes.
We could assume he was sending out more than just guns, as you would need more than that to be successful. Of course that was just the beginning stage of his plan. It was clear he was going to use all the resources of Wakanda to uplift black people and help them fight.
As for killing black people while in the military, it wasn't like he was randomly killing any and everybody. He just admitted he killed while in the military, some of whom were black people. He was learning the skills of what it took to be successful in his mission of overthrowing governments and whatnot. He was going to use those skills to eventually overthrow white nations, or what he saw as oppressive powers, and empower black people.
Even if we aren't comfortable with this violent plan, at least he was about the business of lifting black people all over the world. They could still heal people with vibranium. Those heart herbs were only for gaining the power of Black Panther.
As for the article, Killmonger didn't represent black men, he represented all of Black America. They portrayed us as wild animals. Killmonger killed both men and women. The women he fought were warriors. What was Killmonger supposed to do, let the women kill him? So no, he wasn't misogynist, and he represented all black Americans. It's a negative view, and I have a problem with how Killmonger was portrayed in that light.
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