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Old 02-23-2018, 11:26 AM
 
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There are no "real" superheroes. They're all fictitious.


There is a "Hancock" comic, and there are quite a few comic lines that are parodies of the superhero genre (including my favorite, Marvel's own "Not Brand Echh!").


So you don't consider Hancock an "actual" superhero. But movie audiences didn't care.
Ummm...there was only a Hancock comic that was made when the movie came out as a supplement to the movie. So yeah, not only are you totally missing the point I made and actually REINFORCING it, but it's also clear that you probably don't even read and aren't very familiar with comic books yourself (and if you DO read comics, you probably assumed I don't).
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Old 02-23-2018, 11:34 AM
 
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Ummm...there was only a Hancock comic that was made when the movie came out as a supplement to the movie. So yeah, not only are you totally missing the point I made and actually REINFORCING it, but it's also clear that you probably don't even read and aren't very familiar with comic books yourself (and if you DO read comics, you probably assumed I don't).
Back in 1967, I wrote an English class essay on how comic books (particularly Marvel) improved erudition and reading comprehension. What were you doing in 1967?


And I still have several editions of "Not Brand Echh!" I was a Fantastic Four fan when both Black Panther and Silver Surfer were introduced. Were you reading comics when Black Panther was introduced? Did you buy it off the comics rack in the drugstore (back before there was any such thing as a "comic store")?
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Old 02-23-2018, 11:47 AM
 
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Back in 1967, I wrote an English class essay on how comic books (particularly Marvel) improved erudition and reading comprehension. What were you doing in 1967?


And I still have several editions of "Not Brand Echh!" I was a Fantastic Four fan when both Black Panther and Silver Surfer were introduced. Were you reading comics when Black Panther was introduced? Did you buy it off the comics rack in the drugstore (back before there was any such thing as a "comic store")?
So basically, you haven't read much of anything new and up-to-date comics wise or kept up with comics consistently in DECADES. That explains your (dis)position and lack of knowledge. Thanks!
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Old 02-24-2018, 12:19 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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i heard this premise before and i fundamentally disagree with it ; KM may have stated that he wanted that but that was a rationalization - his ultimate goal was vengeance and to pay back Wakanda ( and the world ) for the things he felt he was cheated

he stated he killed even other black people on that continent ( Africa ) men women and children to get to Wakanda and kill T Challa...

and once he defeated him he was very plain that he was willing to kill many more people even to their children of those who opposed him to establish Wakanda as THE supreme world power ....

youd have to be blind to not see that a guy who is willing to kill people "just like him" in order to make the lives of people just like him "better" is a pretty good sign of a despicable person ...and terrible leader.

Killmonger may have spoken Patrice Lamumba but he was completely Robert Taylor - KM was a villian not because he had admirable qualities but because he was naked in his amorality and disregard for the very things he claimed to value ...he is hardly even an anti-hero... and its kind of crazy to see people say they 'loved" Killmonger ...becaus the dude was saying the stuff every despot and oppressive group like Boko Haram or the Hutu or the Sudanese are SAYING NOW in raping killing and committing genocide in Northern and Central Africa of other black people..

how can you "love" a character like that ???
Killmomger had valid points. But his means to execute on his vision were off. I thought he was a worthy and sympathetic villain.
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Old 02-24-2018, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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$520 million worldwide, halfway there.

‘Black Panther’ Worldwide Box Office Passes $520 Million | Deadline
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Old 02-24-2018, 10:37 AM
 
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Haven't seen it yet but ugh, looks like yet more CGI overload.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/apos-blac...140000604.html
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Old 02-24-2018, 10:45 AM
 
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So basically, you haven't read much of anything new and up-to-date comics wise or kept up with comics consistently in DECADES. That explains your (dis)position and lack of knowledge. Thanks!
No, it means I've been reading comics for 53 years and you're a child who knows no history.
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Old 02-24-2018, 12:16 PM
 
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Killmomger had valid points. But his means to execute on his vision were off. I thought he was a worthy and sympathetic villain.
off

is Boko Haram off? how about Isis ? i mean their aim is to topple corrupt undemocratic immoral and abusive governments under which many people suffer in the Mid East and to throw of what they feel is US hegemony ... isnt that a laudable goal? - are their solutions just off?- the 911 hijackers had a good reason no???

KM wanted to KILL anyone that didnt agree with him and destroy anyplace that was in power

he is certainly worthy to be a villian but i dont see how you can possibly be sympathetic to a guy that believes the way you "make things better" is by doing the **** that you said made things worse to begin with...

the guy was going to BE the very thing he said made his life miserable.....

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Old 02-24-2018, 07:23 PM
 
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I'm white, and I was wondering exactly the same thing when I read that?

It's like an election when biased candidates start talking about 'real Americans' vs. the 'others' who are not real.

Why is Obama not a real black American?
Obama is Kenyan not African American. Two different ethnicities.
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Old 02-24-2018, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Haven't seen it yet but ugh, looks like yet more CGI overload.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/apos-blac...140000604.html
There isn't much CGI. It is more story driven than typical comic book movie fair. Obvi the final battle is CGI crazy, but ,uch of the car chase is believable. And tge other fight scenes are hand to hand combat.
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