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Old 02-12-2017, 02:05 AM
 
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Apparently they forced a German Shepherd into some water when it clearly didn't want to. Almost drowned.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71bbL-w8mpE
dogs are natural swimmers, and generally enjoy the water.

op i had not planned on watching the movie, but now i think i will put it on my list of movies to watch when i get the chance.
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Old 02-12-2017, 03:59 AM
 
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Well, did you enjoy that clip posted?
If you are talking about the one that TMZ supposedly faked or edited is some way, I am not offended by it if that is what you are asking.
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Old 02-12-2017, 04:03 AM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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There is nothing fake about it. Forcing the terrified dog into the water was wrong and the whistle blower who filmed the scene deserves to be praised for showing the truth.

When animals are used to make movies they deserve to have rights, not forced into submission . The german shepherd clearly did not want to get in the water and was shown being forced in. The trainer had no right pushing a scared dog into the water against his will.

The movie itself looks good but the director even admitted this shouldn't have happened.

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Old 02-12-2017, 04:10 AM
 
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I believe the movie is under assault by leftist animal rights kooks, when it is a nice family oriented movie that is very positive toward mans best friend.

[For those of you who read the book prior to the movie, it follows the book fairly well, but of course does not have all the detail (when do movies ever come close). Bottom line is that if you loved the book you will likely love the movie or at least like it]

Yet the movie has been getting trashed, not by legitimate criticism, but rather animal rights groups who bought a fake news story from TMZ hook, line, and sinker.
They have been voting on RT and other sites giving it a zero or one just to make the movie seem boring, bad, or even abusive to animals,,,none of which is true.

Here is a trailer for the movie;






The controversy, if you want to call it that (more like fake outrage based on a fictitious story) is about one scene in the movie where a police dog jumps into the water to save a child's life. According to the fake story which was thoroughly debunked, the German Shepard was forcibly pulled into the water by a line to make it seem as if it voluntarily jumped in to save the child.
[Things have gotten so out of hand than rodents are assigned a specialist to make sure they are not expected to do anything outside of what a normal rodent would do naturally in the wild].
This despite the fact rodents are killed by the hundreds of thousands daily by people across the planet.

Yet the kooks want to complain about a dog allegedly pulled into the water "against it's will", which was not even true. I suppose they think police dogs and rescue dogs that are trained to perform tasks are also being abused/exploited.
The dog was not injured or anything, but maybe it became wet against it's will.

Anyway, it is a very good film, and you should consider it for yourselves, especially if you love dogs or want a wholesome family picture.


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Most movies have more truth in them than the OP. Vector, my dear, NOTHING has been, as you so thoughtfully say, thoroughly debunked. Two sides have been presented. That's all.


As for animal cruelty, I guess it's too hard to figure out that what you see on screen is highly edited and not even shot in sequence. I might suggest a little knowledge about how movies are filmed and put together might be helpful.


As for me, I love dogs far more than humans. But as for the story behind this story, I realize there are two sides, and what we see in both stories are part of movie making and should be mostly discounted.


It's clear who the kook is. Very clear.
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Old 02-12-2017, 05:25 AM
 
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Most movies have more truth in them than the OP. Vector, my dear, NOTHING has been, as you so thoughtfully say, thoroughly debunked. Two sides have been presented. That's all.


As for animal cruelty, I guess it's too hard to figure out that what you see on screen is highly edited and not even shot in sequence. I might suggest a little knowledge about how movies are filmed and put together might be helpful.


As for me, I love dogs far more than humans. But as for the story behind this story, I realize there are two sides, and what we see in both stories are part of movie making and should be mostly discounted.


It's clear who the kook is. Very clear.
You say it has not been debunked, others say differently. Regardless, I care for and appreciate animals as well. That said, it has become absurd how animal rights kooks have become, not wanting any animal to experience any hardship against their "will". Based on that criteria, few if any shows about animals could be made short of total CGI type of fake looking stuff that no one would want to see.
As with most things in life, people view the same thing very differently. What is considered torture by some is not by others, and that is related to humans, not animals. Thus "animal cruelty" might be defined very differently, depending on who's perspective it is coming from.

So while neither one of us were present when this film was produced, no one is claiming the dogs were abused by any reasonable persons standards. Nor were any injured based on anyone's claim either.
Yet the activists have gone out of their way to harm this movie with fake reviews, because that is their way of presumably striking back against those who harm animals. Why else would they want to trash and boycott this movie which is so positive about mans best friend?
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Old 02-12-2017, 05:40 AM
 
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The dog didn't want to go in the water -- they should have found another dog who did.

The movie crew/director didn't care what the dog wanted.

Their attitude was arrogant and hypocritical -- making a movie that is sentimental about dogs, but then they treat the dog like crap.

Thoroughly vile and despicable.

But not surprising -- it's always "Me first!" with such self-centered, arrogant people.
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Old 02-12-2017, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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I think the police should employ more dogs, as this would improve both the IQ levels of the police service and physical fitness levels.
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Old 02-12-2017, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Hamburg, Deutschland
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There is nothing fake about it. Forcing the terrified dog into the water was wrong and the whistle blower who filmed the scene deserves to be praised for showing the truth.

When animals are used to make movies they deserve to have rights, not forced into submission . The german shepherd clearly did not want to get in the water and was shown being forced in. The trainer had no right pushing a scared dog into the water against his will.

The movie itself looks good but the director even admitted this shouldn't have happened.
This is insulting towards the dog. German shepherds are brave, good swimmers and generally enjoy being in the water. Presenting one as a cowardly scaredy-cat is offensive to the breed in general and would probably seem offensive to the dog in question if it could read. These dogs are braver than many an animal-rights nut.
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Old 02-12-2017, 05:46 AM
 
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The dog didn't want to go in the water.

We know that from the video.

Why didn't it want to go?

Who knows, and who cares?

It didn't want to go in the water.

That's what we do know.
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Old 02-12-2017, 05:57 AM
 
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If you are talking about the one that TMZ supposedly faked or edited is some way, I am not offended by it if that is what you are asking.
Yes the TMZ one
How could that be faked? The dog clearly didn't want to go in the water.
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