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Old 01-05-2015, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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I know it's an older one but it's fresh to me watching Lone Ranger and The Seachers, how in westerns the bad guy always wears black and good guys wear lighter colors.
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Old 01-05-2015, 09:26 PM
 
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Or they live in an area where one side is houses and the other side is woods. They always run into the woods, which dramatically slopes downhill so that they run like two steps and then slip. Then they end up falling and tumbling to the bottom, hitting their head and passing out. Then they wake up and their vision is all blurry and the person who was chasing them in the car is now right in their face.

Or...while they're in those woods, they turn their heads around to look behind them while they're still running forward, then proceed to collide with a tree. ROTF!
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Old 01-05-2015, 10:35 PM
 
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I know it's an older one but it's fresh to me watching Lone Ranger and The Seachers, how in westerns the bad guy always wears black and good guys wear lighter colors.

That reminds me about how the hero lives in a beautiful in beautiful castle, beautiful land and evil lives in dark tortured dead wasteland with dark evil castle. Really? Don't evil people want to live in beautiful places too?
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Old 01-05-2015, 11:03 PM
 
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This theme has been going on since the dawn of film, but....

What I call "technology-baiting". These movies (especially in the last 10 years) that try to predict the future, basically giving them the entire movie to say "OOH, look what technology we're going to have! Things are going to be this way, we'll all have this technology, and you're all going to be even dumber submissive consumers than you currently are." and they portray this with such a sense of inevitability. I have avoided seeing a large number of movies over the last few years for this reason alone.
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Old 01-06-2015, 01:30 AM
 
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That reminds me about how the hero lives in a beautiful in beautiful castle, beautiful land and evil lives in dark tortured dead wasteland with dark evil castle. Really? Don't evil people want to live in beautiful places too?
Yeah. At least say Ninja Turtles or Dare Devil (granted the came from comics) were heroes living bad places. The turtles lived in a glorified sewer while Dare Devil lived in Hell's Kitchen and his arch-rival Wilson Fisk basically owned his own skyscraper in Midtown.
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Old 01-06-2015, 01:40 AM
 
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Rich is always evil, poor is always good/noble.

If there are a team of good guys in an action flick, each will have to defeat their counterpart at the end. If it is a chick, she will fight another chick.

If it is rag-tag, it will defeat shiny, new, stronger...bc of "heart" or whatever.

Evil people always know they are evil instead of being different people with their own point of view and agenda they think is just as important to them. No, see...they are just EVIL for the sake of being evil.
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Old 01-06-2015, 02:06 AM
 
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Rich is always evil, poor is always good/noble.

If there are a team of good guys in an action flick, each will have to defeat their counterpart at the end. If it is a chick, she will fight another chick.

If it is rag-tag, it will defeat shiny, new, stronger...bc of "heart" or whatever.

Evil people always know they are evil instead of being different people with their own point of view and agenda they think is just as important to them. No, see...they are just EVIL for the sake of being evil.
Besides Guardians of the Galaxy, the Marvel movies have done it where Black Widow has beaten up men and aliens and not another woman to this point in any of the three films she has been in. She even had a decent sized fight scene with the leading male villain in Winter Soldier.

The evil meme is becoming more and more of the point of view than being strictly evil. Trask in X-Men: Days of Future Past admired the mutants, he just thought they were a problem. Magneto of X-Men wasn't evil, he just thought that human and mutant couldn't coexist and mutants were superior. HYDRA in Winter Soldier was looking to save the world by getting rid of people who are threats to peace. Hans from Frozen wanted to be a king and couldn't being 12th in line to his throne. Maleficent is very point of viewed for both Maleficent and even King Stephan. In Guardians Ronan thought that the Kree making a treaty with the Xandarians was being a trator to the way of the Kree. Loki in Thor felt he was over-shadowed by his adoptive brother Thor Odinson. The varsity Warriors of Mighty Ducks 3 were mad that the heroes from the Jr. Goodwill Game (the Ducks) were given free rides to their prep school and taking their thunder for the hockey team to watch.

Sometimes it is about drilling down, listening and even reading between the lines of what is said and what is done and not just seeing "HE'S EVILLLLLLLLLLLL." Fewer and fewer movies have truly evil characters and more that you can at the very least somewhat understand.
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Old 01-06-2015, 02:15 AM
 
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You were talking about a handful of recent movies vs the entire history of movies.
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Old 01-06-2015, 02:24 AM
 
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You were talking about a handful of recent movies vs the entire history of movies.
They are ones that I can pull off the top of my head. The cliche of evil person with no reason behind their evil twirling their mustache is not as relevant anymore as other cliches are. Villains have a lot more development now and are not just the bad guy trying to rob a bank for them-self. Instead, now the bad guy is robbing the bank for his dying daughter. I have to honestly think of a movie with a villain who has no reason at all and only two come to mind, Wanted and Thor: The Dark World. The rest of the villains now have more of a backstory and aren't just undeveloped evil pricks.
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Old 01-06-2015, 07:09 AM
 
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According to the movies there is an inexhaustible supply of corrupt helicopter pilots who will go to work for the bad guys and have no problem at all helping them try and murder people.

That they always wind up getting killed themselves in flaming crashes does nothing to discourage future volunteers.
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