11-29-2010, 01:06 AM
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So what's life like in Carmel valley? I have been through Monterey & Carmel & it's nice,but I haven't been to Carmel valley. I have seen some nice properties in Carmel valley just inland that are what I'm looking for.
11-29-2010, 09:47 AM
Location: Vancouver, WA
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You have a lot of specific questions, all of which I do not have the answers to. But take a look at this post which I wrote describing the Monterey area's economy:
https://www.city-data.com/forum/calif...y-history.html
I have a number of friends living in Carmel Valley. All of them really like it. Some commute into Monterey and the surrounding towns for work. The valley itself is very much agriculture and tourist based for those working right there. They have a number of nice wineries, ranches, etc... We have friends on a ranch there who actually raise their own livestock of various kinds. As far as landscape work I don't know? I mean I see people out there doing the work. But I would imagine in the current economy it may be a bit difficult to drum up new business. You will have to explore that one yourself.
As far as the area is concerned it is very nice, one of the nicest in the state IMO. You are in the country, but still a short drive in to the Monterey cities, shopping, etc...
Derek
11-29-2010, 10:25 AM
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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You may also want to look at the west side of the Salinas Valley, north and west of Spreckels and south of Spreckels. I don't know what you will find, there are old ranches including the Dorrance brothers ranch (if you know horse training, you know of the Dorrances
11-29-2010, 11:20 AM
Location: Mountains of Oregon
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Howdy Bodegahead,
We moved away over four lustrums ago, but i always have loved the 'Carmel Valley'. The beauty, sun, warmth would always draw me over the grade.
We lived outside Salinas, but drove over the Los Laureles grade to swim at the 'Los Laureles Lodge'.
Los Laureles Lodge - Carmel Valley, California Sometimes we played pool, had a few drinks, then dinner thar.
Or at times spend the weekend.
Have a few cold ones at the 'Stirrup Cup' in the Village, & pool or darts, shuffleboard.
I used to do some fishin in the Carmel River & at the Los Padres Dam.
Drive the Carmel Valley road (or ride our bikes,1967 BSA 650) on through to Arroyo Seco. Horseshoes at Millers Lodge. Do some fishin in the river or up at the 'Gorge'. The gorge road would go past Indian Camp, Hunter Liggett over to Lake San Antonio & Naciemiento Res.
We had some Great Times, & Wonderful Memories of yester year FUn.
EnJoy yourself in the Valley Bro.
11-29-2010, 01:44 PM
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Thank you guys for the responses. It seems very beautiful,I will have to read more about the Monterey economy. Spreckles looks like a good spot too,I will have to look more into it.
11-29-2010, 01:57 PM
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PS Hawk J,how hard was it to adapt to Oregon? We love it up there but have only visited certain parts. Our biggest concern is we are sun junkies,but I do love the coast & the dramatic beauty even with the cold & fog.
I was also looking at properties in Florence up to Lincoln City or inland outside of Eugene,I don't know that the properties are quite cheap enough up there though because we would have to start completely over & any house over $300,000 would require everyone to work at least part time asap. It is pretty far away too,but we are just fed up with not being able to own what we want without winning the lottery. I'm just not sure what to do,but I appreciate all honest advice from you guys. Sonoma county is great but I think the vineyards & city growth have priced these little towns here out of control. I mean anything here in a desirable spot with over an acre is 1million & up with any type of good sized house on it
11-29-2010, 01:59 PM
Location: Vancouver, WA
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I wouldn't worry too much about the cholos in Carmel Valley.
The majority of violence you hear about is gang on gang in Salinas proper itself. I have many friends who have lived in the surrounding outskirt areas without problems including places like Spreckes, Toro Park, Las Palmas, Indian Springs, etc... And Carmel Valley is far enough removed that it is not an issue.
But I would avoid living in Salinas, especially the north eastern side. You don't have to work there necessarily. It really depends on the types of work you do. Most ppl I know work in Monterey, Carmel, Pebble Beach, Pacific Grove, Seaside and Marina. Even those I know who live in Salinas commute into Monterey and these other coastal areas for work.
BTW, we almost moved our family to Oregon. If it wasn't for extended family here we most likely would have. It's beautiful in hte PNW. WA is nice as well. But yes it is colder and has fewer sunny days throughout the year than most places. And they do get snow. Did you see all the traffic accidents during there recent snowstorm?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhZCyQ3emQg
Also jobs can be an issue there as well depending on where you live and your professions.
Derek
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11-29-2010, 03:08 PM
Location: Mountains of Oregon
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BodegaHead
PS Hawk J,how hard was it to adapt to Oregon? We love it up there but have only visited certain parts. Our biggest concern is we are sun junkies,but I do love the coast & the dramatic beauty even with the cold & fog.
I was also looking at properties in Florence up to Lincoln City or inland outside of Eugene,I don't know that the properties are quite cheap enough up there though because we would have to start completely over & any house over $300,000 would require everyone to work at least part time asap. It is pretty far away too,but we are just fed up with not being able to own what we want without winning the lottery. I'm just not sure what to do,but I appreciate all honest advice from you guys. Sonoma county is great but I think the vineyards & city growth have priced these little towns here out of control. I mean anything here in a desirable spot with over an acre is 1million & up with any type of good sized house on it
We've always loved to boonie camp & fish. We came up here to Oregon on 2 of our vacations (rafting on the Rogue River & fishin on the Umpqua River & Cow Creek) & found our forest land on a beautiful mountain to the west of Wolf Creek, in the boonies.
We started out using our generators fer lectric, then Pacific Power gave us a good deal, & we let them put the electric & phone underground. My Dream had always been to have a basspond. So i hired a man with a Cat & a backhoe to move some dirt fer me. I had a pretty nice low area like a big gully that he made bigger & took out some timber, etc. Up the mountain are some artesian springs that gravity feed my home & pond. I had a 2500 gallon holding tank placed up thar
I love to observe the life in the waterways, forests, & fly above.
The mountains protect us from the wind. Very little wind here. I love it
For the most part we have pretty mild winters here & quite a few weather breaks where it will be in the 70's or up a few days, even during the winter. Usually the colder weather is in Dec, Jan.
The most snow we've had was about 6" maybe. It melts in 3 or 4 days, then a few days later we might get another weather pattern with cold or snow for a few days. Here at 2000' we get quite a few partial Sun days in the winter. Much better winter weather here then many other places i've seen. We truly love living here.
The coldest since we've been here is 10 degrees fer two days, then warms up.
11-29-2010, 03:25 PM
Location: Mountains of Oregon
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One of my beloved brothers (who is now retired) still lives in Prunedale. He loves it there. Bro taught school fer 35 years in Marina, Seaside, Fort Ord.
My beloved sister in law lives in Gilroy still. She loves it there.
11-29-2010, 03:41 PM
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Thanks for the further details MtnSurfer. I am guessing some of these properties I am seeing at these too good to be true prices may very well be in these surrounding communities you listed,but they list them as Carmel valley to draw more lookers. That video is pretty hilarious in a sadistic kinda way,I couldn't stop laughing,but felt bad at the same time. Can't imagine if that ever happened in SF.
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People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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The majority of violence you hear about is gang on gang in Salinas proper itself. I have many friends who have lived in the surrounding outskirt areas without problems including places like Spreckes, Toro Park, Las Palmas, Indian Springs, etc... And Carmel Valley is far enough removed that it is not an issue.
