Horse meat processing plant proposed in Ozarks (Mexico, Schell City: appointed, buy)

[Cali BassMan]

I love horses, have owned them for 30 years, BUT I'll always remember what my father said about growing up in depression striken Missouri before WWII. They ate anything they could kill, and were hungry often. So I would try horse meat given a chance, I think I've tried most North American game, I like venison and elk alot, Antelope was ok, Bear not very good.
None of it matches up to Beef and CHicken though IMO

[kye154]

As many puppy mills found around in that area of Missouri, it is surprising that they would go to all the trouble and expense of importing horses from other places, grinding them up, and processing horse meat for human consumption, rather than the dogs they raise. There are simply more dogs than horses. Ever wonder where the term evolved for the Ozarks to earn the name and reputation of Dogpatch USA? Well, now you know. I guess they could mix the meat with chicken, beef, or pork in sausage or hamburger patties and few people would notice the difference. It has happened before, and that is why Teddy Roosevelt formed the Food and Drug Administration in 1906. Perhaps they are wanting to start a meat processing plant in the Ozarks, so they can be far away from the regulatory inspections as possible?

[7gkids]

Originally Posted by Cali BassMan

I love horses, have owned them for 30 years, BUT I'll always remember what my father said about growing up in depression striken Missouri before WWII. They ate anything they could kill, and were hungry often. So I would try horse meat given a chance, I think I've tried most North American game, I like venison and elk alot, Antelope was ok, Bear not very good.
None of it matches up to Beef and CHicken though IMO

My mother tells the story about when during the depression her family was so hungry for meat that they tried to cook a porcupine. LOL I say tried because it could not be done.

[Cali BassMan]

Originally Posted by 7gkids

My mother tells the story about when during the depression her family was so hungry for meat that they tried to cook a porcupine. LOL I say tried because it could not be done.

My Dad said about they only thing they did not eat was Crow, not that they didin't try, it was just terrible.....He said Possum Pie was tasty...

[kye154]

I had a second cousin who did a lot of hunting back during the Depression. He said back in the 1970's, "a lot of people don't know this today, but the deer population was almost wiped out by 1940. So were all the ducks and geese". And, it wasn't until the 1960's when the Conservation Commission finally reintroduced the turkeys back into Missouri. Wild game sure became scarce then, but apparently, people were not poor enough to run out of guns and ammunition during the Depression.

[7gkids]

Originally Posted by Cali BassMan

My Dad said about they only thing they did not eat was Crow, not that they didin't try, it was just terrible.....He said Possum Pie was tasty...

I have cooked a possum. My husband said it was tasty but I did not taste it! LOL I am blessed that I have never been hungry enough to HAVE to eat possum. Now I have had to eat a little crow in my lifetime, but not the bird variety! LOL It was hard to swallow.

[Versatile]

Originally Posted by kye154

As many puppy mills found around in that area of Missouri, it is surprising that they would go to all the trouble and expense of importing horses from other places, grinding them up, and processing horse meat for human consumption, rather than the dogs they raise. There are simply more dogs than horses. Ever wonder where the term evolved for the Ozarks to earn the name and reputation of Dogpatch USA? Well, now you know. I guess they could mix the meat with chicken, beef, or pork in sausage or hamburger patties and few people would notice the difference. It has happened before, and that is why Teddy Roosevelt formed the Food and Drug Administration in 1906. Perhaps they are wanting to start a meat processing plant in the Ozarks, so they can be far away from the regulatory inspections as possible?

We have paved roads etc in Mo. How do you come to the conclusion that they won't be inspected in Mo.?

[kye154]

Originally Posted by Versatile

We have paved roads etc in Mo. How do you come to the conclusion that they won't be inspected in Mo.?

Oh, that can be answered quite easily, and it has nothing to do with paved roads at all. Although, the FDA has the over-riding authority, it really does not do its job properly. FDA acts like a last line of defense, rather than to intrude too much in what is considered "state sovereign rights", and usually defer many things to state regulation, including the inspection and licensing of meat packing plants. Mo. Dept of Health is responsible for that. See: Food Safety | Health & Senior Services. Poor states, like Missouri, are really laxed on regulation, and will do anything to attract businesses here, including waving the health and safety regulations. I am sure that is why the meat packers in Wyoming are moving to Missouri, because of this. Missouri, as usual, always claims jobs are at stake, but are really more interested in collectiing taxable revenues. So, food enforcement is very laxed in this state. Same with environmental regulations, agricultural inspections, and a number of other things. Makes you wonder why state taxpayers are paying for all these state regulatory agencies, and they basically do nothing, much less get funded properly by the state legislature to carry out their mandates. Where is their tax money going to? In the case of puppy mills, the USDA cited Missouri for 103 violations for non-inspection last year alone of it's 1800+ dog breeders. So you see, because Missouri has gotten the reputation for laxed enforcement, a horse meat plant would very easily get by inspection in Missouri, where it might not in Wyoming. From a food safety stand point, imported foods from Mexico is probably safer than buying it locally in Missouri, since imported stuff is inspected by USDA directly and more frequently.

[Versatile]

Originally Posted by kye154

Oh, that can be answered quite easily, and it has nothing to do with paved roads at all. Although, the FDA has the over-riding authority, it really does not do its job properly. FDA acts like a last line of defense, rather than to intrude too much in what is considered "state sovereign rights", and usually defer many things to state regulation, including the inspection and licensing of meat packing plants. Mo. Dept of Health is responsible for that. See: Food Safety | Health & Senior Services. Poor states, like Missouri, are really laxed on regulation, and will do anything to attract businesses here, including waving the health and safety regulations. I am sure that is why the meat packers in Wyoming are moving to Missouri, because of this. Missouri, as usual, always claims jobs are at stake, but are really more interested in collectiing taxable revenues. So, food enforcement is very laxed in this state. Same with environmental regulations, agricultural inspections, and a number of other things. Makes you wonder why state taxpayers are paying for all these state regulatory agencies, and they basically do nothing, much less get funded properly by the state legislature to carry out their mandates. Where is their tax money going to? In the case of puppy mills, the USDA cited Missouri for 103 violations for non-inspection last year alone of it's 1800+ dog breeders. So you see, because Missouri has gotten the reputation for laxed enforcement, a horse meat plant would very easily get by inspection in Missouri, where it might not in Wyoming. From a food safety stand point, imported foods from Mexico is probably safer than buying it locally in Missouri, since imported stuff is inspected by USDA directly and more frequently.

i think you are full of Horse pooey!

Mo. does not have a reputation of being a lax state.

[SW Missouri Dave]

Originally Posted by Versatile

i think you are full of Horse pooey!

Mo. does not have a reputation of being a lax state.

He's just another Missouri basher Versatile and really isn't much good at it. On this thread alone, his story about Dogpatch is total jibberish, as is his history of the turkey population in Missouri.

Hard to have an intelligent conversation with someone who pulls "facts" out of thin air.