08-01-2007, 10:16 AM
Location: Ava, Mo
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Have just moved near Ava, MO and am loving it! But putting in a garden was really a chore. DaHubby cleared a small area so I could put in "a few" plants. I told him I wanted a couple tomato plants and some green peppers. Well he came back with 18 tomato plants, 5 green peppers, 4 jalapenoes and 9 purple cabbage plants. I got to work TRYING to plant them and because of all the rocks on our little Ozark Mountain I had to plant each one with a pick and mattox. Then our neighbor brought me 3 hybrid tomato plants. The garden is doing great and we have been enjoying some great tomatoes. Next year I will use the raised bed method.. no more pick and mattox for me!
SO: How do you all put in a garden? Any tips for me?
We also bought a small swimming pool just to cool off in and a tree frog decided it should lay it's eggs in it. Well we took a net and got them out and put them in a plastic container and are now growing little tadpoles
Right before we left to come back to Indiana to get another load of our belongings another frog laid eggs and we left them in the pool, if the chlorine hasn't killed them we are sure to have a fresh batch of tree frog tadpoles enjoying our pool when we get back to MO.
08-01-2007, 02:15 PM
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I know whatcha mean by all of the rocks. I believe I read somewhere that Missouri had approximately 2.9 billion fist sized rocks per square foot and boy I think that is a fairly accurate figure
We have two neighbors that have the built up garden areas made with railroad ties. These gardens are just crankin' right now and we don't know what to do with all of the produce
I'd be happy to take some pics for you if you wish so you can see how these folks put them together
08-01-2007, 05:42 PM
Location: MO Ozarkian in NE Hoosierana
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Rocks?!?!? In the Ozarks?!?!?
Whatcha's talking about???
lol, yea, a raised bed is nice, actually seems that plants grow better in 'em. However, I haven't used and would not recommend RR ties, nor any other lumber/material where chemicals could potentially leach out into the dirt, and then into the plant.
Few ideas:
The perfect raised bed
Raised garden bed plans | Design a raised garden bed
Raised Garden Beds
How to Landscape With Raised Beds | eHow.com
How to build a raised bed garden - Garden - Organic Pathways - Your Online Guide to Organics in Aotearoa New Zealand
The ones that I've built had wooden logs, cut so that they would set in to each other, kinda like a log cabin construction. Secure, and looked
too.
And for a really large plot
:
Permanent Raised Bed Gardening: Introduction
btw, let us know about the tree frogs! Love their songs...
08-01-2007, 06:13 PM
Location: Moved to town. Miss 'my' woods and critters.
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We have made raised garden beds using 2 x 8s and 2 x 4s to make a rectangular bed. Filled it with 'good' dirt, sans rocks (hahahahaha). Had to put 3 ft. tall poles on each corner and wrapped mesh around them. This is to discourage unwanted critters from sneaking in and partaking of my tasty veggies. Well, it worked until yesterday.
Saw a grey squirrel jump up and take off into the woods. Checked said garden, and sure enough. My biggest, almost ripe tomatoes will not be shared with my husband.
If I hadn't used a raised bed, the turtles would have gotten some anyway. But, all in all, raised gardens are the best. Just have to not be in the middle of the woods as we are. Have fun and lots of luck to yas.
08-01-2007, 06:48 PM
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Rocks?!?!? In the Ozarks?!?!?
Whatcha's talking about???
lol, yea, a raised bed is nice, actually seems that plants grow better in 'em. However, I haven't used and would not recommend RR ties, nor any other lumber/material where chemicals could potentially leach out into the dirt, and then into the plant....<snip>....
D'OH! SC points out a very important factoid!! I should have mentioned the neighbors used the RR ties...
before they became RR ties! The same sized and type of lumber without all the yucky stuff slathered all over it!
08-01-2007, 07:18 PM
Location: SW MO
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I swear, rocks are a native Missouri crop, because every time you dig them out of the soil, or pick them up out of the field, winter comes and the ground freezes. Then spring comes with the thaw and just like crocuses, they spring from the ground overnight! Where do the seeds for these new rocks come from??!!
08-01-2007, 07:53 PM
Location: Ava, Mo
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thanks for all the info. I am thinking of making my raised beds with the darn rocks I've been pulling out of the ground. I sure have enough of them to make some really nice plots.
08-01-2007, 08:13 PM
Location: Moved to town. Miss 'my' woods and critters.
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Rocks?
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thanks for all the info. I am thinking of making my raised beds with the darn rocks I've been pulling out of the ground. I sure have enough of them to make some really nice plots.
Yep, they do multiply. Had a neighbor that would throw rocks out onto the road in front of her home her at our lake subd. just about every day. Of course, my hubby would stop and throw these tire deflaters into a ditch. But don't get too discouraged about the rocks. Maybe you will find some that are interesting and unusual.
I have gotten to the point of just picking some that appeal to my weird sense of beauty and place them around my gardens and paths. Gotta find some use for them
Who knows, in Missouri, some of what you find may not be just'a rock'. Might be a piece of handiwork from the inhabitants of this great state before it was invaded
Never know...
08-01-2007, 08:30 PM
Location: Ava, Mo
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Yep, they do multiply. Had a neighbor that would throw rocks out onto the road in front of her home her at our lake subd. just about every day. Of course, my hubby would stop and throw these tire deflaters into a ditch. But don't get too discouraged about the rocks. Maybe you will find some that are interesting and unusual.
I have gotten to the point of just picking some that appeal to my weird sense of beauty and place them around my gardens and paths. Gotta find some use for them
Who knows, in Missouri, some of what you find may not be just'a rock'. Might be a piece of handiwork from the inhabitants of this great state before it was invaded
Never know...
Some of the rocks are really pretty and unusual. And we have found a Spear Head on the property! It is to big to be an arrow head. And I am always looking for more.
08-01-2007, 08:51 PM
Location: SW MO
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Teamwork, folks! Teamwork!
Quote:
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ShadowCaver
Rocks?!?!? In the Ozarks?!?!?
Whatcha's talking about???
lol, yea, a raised bed is nice, actually seems that plants grow better in 'em. However, I haven't used and would not recommend RR ties, nor any other lumber/material where chemicals could potentially leach out into the dirt, and then into the plant.
Few ideas:
The perfect raised bed
Raised garden bed plans | Design a raised garden bed
Raised Garden Beds
How to Landscape With Raised Beds | eHow.com
How to build a raised bed garden - Garden - Organic Pathways - Your Online Guide to Organics in Aotearoa New Zealand
The ones that I've built had wooden logs, cut so that they would set in to each other, kinda like a log cabin construction. Secure, and looked
too.
And for a really large plot
:
Permanent Raised Bed Gardening: Introduction
btw, let us know about the tree frogs! Love their songs...
Wow, ShadowCaver! Thanks for all the tips and links! As usual, you are "johnny on the spot"!
Quote:
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Northwoods Voyager
We have made raised garden beds using 2 x 8s and 2 x 4s to make a rectangular bed. Filled it with 'good' dirt, sans rocks (hahahahaha). Had to put 3 ft. tall poles on each corner and wrapped mesh around them. This is to discourage unwanted critters from sneaking in and partaking of my tasty veggies. Well, it worked until yesterday.
Saw a grey squirrel jump up and take off into the woods. Checked said garden, and sure enough. My biggest, almost ripe tomatoes will not be shared with my husband.
If I hadn't used a raised bed, the turtles would have gotten some anyway. But, all in all, raised gardens are the best. Just have to not be in the middle of the woods as we are. Have fun and lots of luck to yas.
Hey, Voyager! Bummer 'bout them 'matoes! My husband put a 3 foot wire fence around his raised bed and that has kept the squirrels out of ours. We have seen turtles here, too. I never knew they'd go after them. Duh, huh?
To be honest, I only thought about the rabbits being a problem. Feelin' silly, now.
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People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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SO: How do you all put in a garden? Any tips for me?
Right before we left to come back to Indiana to get another load of our belongings another frog laid eggs and we left them in the pool, if the chlorine hasn't killed them we are sure to have a fresh batch of tree frog tadpoles enjoying our pool when we get back to MO.
Whatcha's talking about???
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Saw a grey squirrel jump up and take off into the woods. Checked said garden, and sure enough. My biggest, almost ripe tomatoes will not be shared with my husband. 
Rocks?
Teamwork, folks! Teamwork!
To be honest, I only thought about the rabbits being a problem. Feelin' silly, now. 
