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Old 03-11-2022, 07:31 AM
 
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What a coincidence...

Very interesting indeed....
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Old 03-11-2022, 01:41 PM
 
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I was wondering if the invasion would be used to pivot away from the panic. We'll see if that sticks.
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Old 03-14-2022, 07:56 AM
 
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The last places to lift their mask mandates (at least partially) are- as would be expected- the most liberal places in Mass - Cambridge, Northampton, Amherst, Brookline. It's curious how politics and petty tyranny align.
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Old 03-14-2022, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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The last places to lift their mask mandates (at least partially) are- as would be expected- the most liberal places in Mass - Cambridge, Northampton, Amherst, Brookline. It's curious how politics and petty tyranny align.
Incredible that "tyranny" could even remotely be envisioned in this context, while we have a real tyrant destroying lives and liberty in Europe.
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Old 03-14-2022, 10:43 AM
 
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Incredible that "tyranny" could even remotely be envisioned in this context, while we have a real tyrant destroying lives and liberty in Europe.

After reading about what is going on inside Russia in terms of quelling protests and such, folks here don't know how easy they have it.

Wearing a mask into a store is tyranny? GMAFB.
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Old 03-14-2022, 10:49 AM
 
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After reading about what is going on inside Russia in terms of quelling protests and such, folks here don't know how easy they have it.

Wearing a mask into a store is tyranny? GMAFB.
As well as an unmeasurable ignorance of both world and our own history. The biggest sheep are those repeating these talking points, without any understanding of what they are saying.

As for certain towns maintaining these mandates longer than needed (or letting go sooner than appropriate), that's probably more virtue signaling that anything else. It's the wonderful world of identity politics we have succumbed to. Both sides are guilty.
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Old 03-14-2022, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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As well as an unmeasurable ignorance of both world and our own history. The biggest sheep are those repeating these talking points, without any understanding of what they are saying.

As for certain towns maintaining these mandates longer than needed (or letting go sooner than appropriate), that's probably more virtue signaling that anything else. It's the wonderful world of identity politics we have succumbed to. Both sides are guilty.
Mask mandates, especially on little kids who have no idea what's going on and aren't at any risk from the virus anyway, are dictionary-definition tyranny. You want to argue they're not? Then argue that they're neither cruel, nor unreasonable, nor arbitrary, nor oppressive, and that they're not a use of power or control. Don't kvetch about how I've never picked up a history book and don't call me a sheep or other slur. Make your case.

I'd sooner argue that mask mandates, again especially the ones that apply to schools, have all of the possible elements of the dictionary definition of tyranny than that they have none. But again, make your case. Though I'll note, you've already begun making the opposite case by admitting that there's no public health reason at all for these laggards like Cambridge and Northampton to keep their mask mandates.
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Old 03-14-2022, 12:49 PM
 
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Mask mandates, especially on little kids who have no idea what's going on and aren't at any risk from the virus anyway, are dictionary-definition tyranny. You want to argue they're not? Then argue that they're neither cruel, nor unreasonable, nor arbitrary, nor oppressive, and that they're not a use of power or control. Don't kvetch about how I've never picked up a history book and don't call me a sheep or other slur. Make your case.

I'd sooner argue that mask mandates, again especially the ones that apply to schools, have all of the possible elements of the dictionary definition of tyranny than that they have none. But again, make your case. Though I'll note, you've already begun making the opposite case by admitting that there's no public health reason at all for these laggards like Cambridge and Northampton to keep their mask mandates.

I don't see anything about cloth face masks here, bud. Maybe it should be added?


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tyranny
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Old 03-14-2022, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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I don't see anything about cloth face masks here, bud.


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tyranny
I don't see anything about taxing tea, either, but that still fit the definition, didn't it? Speaking of not picking up a history book. Jesus, man.
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Old 03-14-2022, 12:56 PM
 
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I don't see anything about taxing tea, either, but that still fit the definition, didn't it? Speaking of not picking up a history book. Jesus, man.

No, taxing tea in and of itself isn't and wasn't tyrannical, it was the circumstances and motives around it. See, your just proving my point.
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