Coronavirus in Massachusetts (Boston: tenant, foods, health)

[brk330]

Originally Posted by GeoffD

So it’s looking like roughly half the country is going to be eligible for a booster...

My wife and I got our third shots about a month ago. She got Pfizer, Moderna for me.
No adverse reactions to report. She had chills for a full day, I got maybe 15 minutes of chills in the middle of the night.
I have read these side effects or lack thereof mean nothing regarding efficacy, but it was reassuring to feel my immune system do something.

[justyouraveragetenant]

Originally Posted by timberline742

Watch out for that oxygen. It could kill you.

(And flouride isn't banned in Japan. I've bought toothpaste with it there not long ago.)

They just don't put it in the water like we do. Most but not all toothpastes there do not have fluoride but sodium bicarbonate. I was just reading.

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by justyouraveragetenant

They just don't put it in the water like we do. Most but not all toothpastes there do not have fluoride but sodium bicarbonate. I was just reading.

You read some interesting stuff. Instead of flouride in water they have a large and widespread flouride mouthwash program in the schools.

[lrfox]

Originally Posted by NewfieMama

I still feel like there are a lot of questions around how this pans out long-term. Will everybody need a booster? How often? Will it be mandatory? What about those (like me) who've had covid and are vaccinated, will those people need boosters as well? I assume covid is here to stay because it can be passed from vaccinated to vaccinated, but will that eventually not be the case?

I still feel like there is a lot to learn about how we'll manage covid long-term--right now it seems like we are still very much in a data-gathering stage.

I think think the answer to those questions will depend mostly on both vaccine efficacy over the long term and the evolution of the variants. I say "mostly" because I also think there is a shelf life for the public tolerance of many of these requirements. In September of 2021, resistance to vaccine requirements is fairly limited on a large scale. I expect that resistance to increase over time. Support will wane faster if vaccine efficacy drops and/or the coming variants are less contagious and less likely to cause serious illness. Barring the circulation of a variant substantially more infectious and debilitating than Delta at this time next year, I can't see widespread booster and vaccine requirements across the country. Maybe in more "progressive" workplaces and in some cities like Boston, Somerville, Cambridge, etc. but not statewide. Certainly not nationwide. We'll see.

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by justyouraveragetenant

I.am well aware of the dangers of nitrates in hotdogs and processed meat. I know enough if something sounds scary often times it's not . I look into alot of products because the history of companies putting dangerous ingredients in them. You should know flouride is a neurotoxin. Banned in most of Europe and Japan.

It's not nitrates, it's nitrites. Different oxidation state of the nitrogen. But it points out that ignorant people pick up on crap that makes no sense, but sounds scary. Favorite example--sodium is highly flammable, chlorine is toxic, but sodium chloride is benign. And it's fluoride, by the way...nothing to do with wheat flour

[justyouraveragetenant]

Originally Posted by timberline742

You read some interesting stuff. Instead of flouride in water they have a large and widespread flouride mouthwash program in the schools.

Yes I read that too same site even.

[justyouraveragetenant]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

It's not nitrates, it's nitrites. Different oxidation state of the nitrogen. But it points out that ignorant people pick up on crap that makes no sense, but sounds scary. Favorite example--sodium is highly flammable, chlorine is toxic, but sodium chloride is benign. And it's fluoride, by the way...nothing to do with wheat flour

That's my bad spelling and not because I don't know what I'm talking about . Hydrogen peroxide is what you wash your mouth out we all know this.

Sodium nitrite can cause cancer. It is used as a preserviative in meats often.

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by justyouraveragetenant

Yes I read that too same site even.

I didn't read it on a site.

[msRB311]

So it seems like it's heading in the direction that people will have to be vaccinated in order to fly?

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/23/is-i...-experts-.html

[Amontillado]

Perhaps we're heading for a legal crisis concerning government's rights to safeguard people's health, versus what rights people have not to cooperate.

And along the way, there would be issues of what a private entity (like an airline) can demand from customers. Someone who's told they can't fly unless they're immunized might sue. On the other hand, someone who claims they've caught COVID from a fellow passenger who wasn't vaccinated might also sue. Who ought to win? I haven't got an answer to this.