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Old 10-07-2020, 09:08 AM
 
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Please stop the hysteria. Corovirus is less dangerous than flu for people under 65.
Yeah I really don't understand how this is possible when YTD Covid has already killed 5X more people than a typical flu season and that is WITH all the business shut downs, distancing, masking and other measures. Also I haven't heard too many cases of the flu leaving people with long term damage and disability the way Covid has for many. Deaths are only part of the story here.
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Old 10-07-2020, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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What is the source of this data?
The CDC

What hurts the message is when we keep looking at traffic fatalities and counting them as COVID-19 deaths.
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Old 10-07-2020, 10:33 AM
 
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What hurts the message is when we keep looking at traffic fatalities and counting them as COVID-19 deaths.
It may alter the numbers slightly, but not the message. I haven't seen anything suggesting that's a major factor.
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Old 10-07-2020, 12:48 PM
 
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Yeah I really don't understand how this is possible when YTD Covid has already killed 5X more people than a typical flu season
COVID-19 has killed 4x more elderly than flu. Btw, a typical flu season kills ~60,000.
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Old 10-07-2020, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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it may alter the numbers slightly, but not the message. I haven't seen anything suggesting that's a major factor.
g.i.g.o.
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Old 10-07-2020, 01:51 PM
 
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g.i.g.o.
Last year there were 38K traffic fatalities in the US. YTD there have been 211K COVID fatalities. So suppose EVERY single traffic fatality was erroneously logged as a COVID death (which they absolutely aren't), that would still leave "only" 173K "COVID deaths" and counting. So reassuring...
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Old 10-07-2020, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Limestone
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The CDC

What hurts the message is when we keep looking at traffic fatalities and counting them as COVID-19 deaths.
Where did you get this info ? I highly doubt someone or group is counting auto deaths as Covid deaths. That's ludicrous.
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Old 10-07-2020, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Log "cabin" west of Bangor
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COVID-19 has killed 4x more elderly than flu. Btw, a typical flu season kills ~60,000.

Yes, which means that you have just contradicted the graph that *you* put up.


I suspect that that graph was displaying deaths vs. the population as a whole, rather than vs. the people who actually are infected.
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Old 10-07-2020, 05:59 PM
 
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Where did you get this info ? I highly doubt someone or group is counting auto deaths as Covid deaths. That's ludicrous.
Due to hospitals receiving an X amount of funding for each "COVID patient", supposedly some deaths are being recorded as such in some places if the patient tests positive for COVID regardless of why they were in there in the first place. I will tell you that I was in the ER recently, had no COVID related symptoms and was therefore never tested for COVID. I would imagine they are only testing people who are exhibiting those symptoms or who have a known exposure.
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Old 10-08-2020, 04:57 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Ill be very interested in seeing the true 2020 death rate for the us, our normal average is 2.8 million deaths per year, so unless it spikes up to 3.1 plus or minus we will know if we have been played for fools.
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