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Old 05-17-2013, 10:14 PM
 
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Looking at a home that was built in 1998. 2200 sq ft colonial. No Central air, but I want to add it. Oil heat, electric dryer, range, microwave ect... My issue is that the home has 150 amp electrical service. I dont know much about electrical, but I was told by the realtor ( who knows there stuff ) and by some other home owners friends, that a 200 amp set up is what I really should have.....especially since i want to add central air. The home has underground utilites....anyboyd know how much the upgrade would cost to go from 150 to 200. I've seen prices ranging from $1000-$10,000.......and I have no idea what would make the cost go from cheap to expensive. I know the panel needs upgrading as well as the line to the home being upgraded ( from what I've been told anyway).

Just curious if somebody here has a more concrete answer from experience.

Thanks
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Old 05-18-2013, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Smithtown, NY
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150 should be fine. You would need to run every device and light in your home, have the oven on clean cycle and then , maybe, draw 150 amps all at once.
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:00 AM
 
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I've heard the same as you, that you should have 200 amps for Central Air at the minimum. We are buying a home that only has 100 amps and we are going to upgrade straight to 200 amps, which looks like it should cost us about $1,500. I haven't gotten any official quotes yet, but that seems to be the average of what i've seen online.
The way I understand it is we could just upgrade to 150 amps, but it wouldn't only cost a couple hundred more to go straight to 200 amps, because it doesn't require much additional materials or labor. And since we plan to have the house for the long haul, we should just upgrade to the max that's available right now.
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Old 05-18-2013, 08:29 AM
 
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I'm not an electrician, but I can tell you that people look for 200 amp service when they buy, with the cost to re-do an entire electrical box running as high as $2500-$2600 and taking most of the day.
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Old 05-18-2013, 08:43 AM
 
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We have a 150 amp. We have Central Air, electric dryer that ran it seemed 24/7 ,an electric oven and had three daughters and and my wife (think hair tools) at one time and never had an issue.
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Old 05-18-2013, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Smithtown, NY
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Under normal circumstances, as long as there is room in your panel for additional circuits (compressor, air handler) 150 amps will be fine.
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Old 05-18-2013, 12:53 PM
 
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We have a 150 amp. We have Central Air, electric dryer that ran it seemed 24/7 ,an electric oven and had three daughters and and my wife (think hair tools) at one time and never had an issue.

By far the best conrete example one could ask for lol. the part in bold tells the whole story......thanks ! Not to take anything away from the other replies too

Seems like 200 is what everbody looks for ( as mentioned above ) now a days, but the 150 is "enough". Pobably with only a little room to spare, but it seems usable. I can probably use this as a price negotiating tool as well !!

Something else i was told.......being that newer appliances seem to be more energy efficient today vs. 15-20 years ago......150 is even more likely to be enough. I will prbably upgrade to 200 amps down the line, but bsed on the replies, it seem like its something I do not have to do right away and especially if I do the central air right off the bat.

Thanks all !!
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Old 05-18-2013, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Copiague, NY
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You need to understand just how much full load amperage, the AC unit will draw, and start calculating the amount of amperage that all of your other electrical appliances will demand when active.
Once you are aware of the usage required while maintaining a balanced load on the main, you will be able to determine whether or not you will have a problem. My advice would be for you to install the
central air unit, and put it into your electrical panel as an independent, dedicated branch circuit breaker, in line with an amperage value equal to, or slightly greater than the AC will demand.
You may also need to brush up on Ohm's Law!
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Old 05-20-2013, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Kings Park & Jamesport
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Well how many free slots do you have in the panel?
Are you planning to install a pool or hot tub in the future?
Are you installing 1 zone or 2 zone a/c (2 separate units)?
Do you need to upgrade an old kitchen?

Yes most people want 200 amps and feel its a bonus to have it. Most people have no idea what they are talk about when discussing service panels! Your typical house really does no need more than 100 amps. Increasing the amperage really does one thing. Gives you more slots for addtional circuits. You could really add a sub panel off a 100 amp panel and be fine. More open slots in a panel, the easier it is to renovate kitchens, baths, pools or add an additions.

If you are upgrading from 100 (or less!) amps to 150 amps, I always say, spend a few more $ and go to 200 amps.
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Old 05-20-2013, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Kings Park & Jamesport
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Also look at the meter. Is the meter pan (the box the meter is plugged into) small or large?
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