[Miborn]

Originally Posted by Mack wild

Often they are "lined" up in the streets.

So let me get this straight. "they are lined up so men like you can take advantage of them and get entertained by someone like you?
Personally I think that your friends are just trying to get rid of you!
I might also add your friends are serious story tellers to puff themselves up I suppose to the back home guys, who will never really know the truth!

[Mack wild]

Originally Posted by Miborn

So let me get this straight. "they are lined up so men like you can take advantage of them and get entertained by someone like you?
Personally I think that your friends are just trying to get rid of you!
I might also add your friends are serious story tellers to puff themselves up I suppose to the back home guys, who will never really know the truth!

Ok OK. Your right. You win. I just can't compete anymore with your abundant and overwhelming feminine power. Your too powerful for me right now. Your just "too" powerful. I surrender. :-)

[StereoDevil]

Originally Posted by mrjason

I wish this thread would wither and die off...how about we all quit watering it?! Okay? Starting now.

This thread is getting Miracle Grow. Hahahahah

[Summerlin]

Where's the Weed Killer?

[Beena]

Dude...(I don't really say dude but am hoping Mack speak will work on you). Most single men and women have completely different views of sex. Is this just now dawning on you? For men like yourself, it is purely recreational. Women are looking for stability and committment first. You gonna offer that?

[Mack wild]

Originally Posted by Beena

Dude...(I don't really say dude but am hoping Mack speak will work on you). Most single men and women have completely different views of sex. Is this just now dawning on you? For men like yourself, it is purely recreational. Women are looking for stability and committment first. You gonna offer that?

lol.

I used to think that too, sorry you still do. I feel bad for the jackassed moron who pretends he wants to be something serious to her or who actually tries to be something more to her than he really is willing to be just to get into her pants. That's why you have women so angry at men in the first place. Idiots who think like you. If a woman gets involved with me she knows what she is getting involved in and she knows the score. That's more than she can say for some cowardly guy who lies to get into her pants and cheats on her 2 months later. This thread is off topic, and most of you are being closed minded fools. I shouldn't have expected more. Im done here.

[Beena]

Oh man...don't go away mad.

I mean you can go away. Just don't go away mad :0

[jrice]

OK, your plan is to move to Vegas from your city in the sticks, get a marginal job, goto clubs and hook up with the available tourists or local women

I have been were you are, thinking the same things you are but its not as easy as you think.

The women you are going to meet at clubs are going to be shallow, not all but a good majority. Any tourist women you meet (that are willing to have sex with a strange guy on vacation) are going to be looking for Mr Vegas--you know the stereotypical vegas stud they see on tv (money, looks, class ,etc)--why would they want to sleep with mr ordinary nice guy when they can get that at home, after all they are in Vegas. Local women in the clubs are looking for Mr Vegas as well but with the possibility of long term relationship-whether its love or friend with benefits. Seeing that you are looking for a relatively low paying job you need to have major game, and that you are from where you are I doubt you have it. For example, a fossil watch is not impressive to anyone, watches like Tag, Omega, Breitling, etc are what players wear. Women will size you up from the clothes you wear the moment you enter the club. Also, at the clubs expect to drop atleast $200-regardless of how buzzed you get in the warm up, if you appear cheap your game is over. And personality does matter but status counts for a hell of alot more in the club circuit.

If you are serious about moving here, and want to meet women(on a budget) goto the locals casinos/bars.

[kimba01]

Hmmm. I know you want this thread to die, but it is so entertaining. Really, I couldn't resist.

Female here, with lots of female experience through not only myself but my friends and acquaintances. Women talk-I listen.

I do not know any high roller types, so since that is not what you want, this is good. We do not go to high falooting-expensive clubs-here or the many times I have been to Vegas. We do and have however, enjoyed going to many "fun" bars and most of us went hoping to "talk" to guys. We did not need them to be rich or have over the top looks-just sensible, nice, cute, friendly guys. We were all very aware of what most guy's intentions were and for the most part we weren't going there in one night. Some of us did and either enjoyed it or regretted it. Some got relationships out of it, some didn't. Simple right? This sounds like the kind of group of girls you are looking to hang with. We were all good looking-no warts on the noses or extremely obese women. Most had good or better jobs and supported theirselves just fine. Did not NEED a man-just wanted one to compliment their lives occasionally. No harm, no foul.

BUT-and you knew there was a but...if a guy or group of guys came over and hung out with us and the waitress came by and he only bought himself a beer and didn't even say, "do you need one?"-he was stamped a big fat jerk and slide down to the bottom of the list. That does not have anything to do with this obvious control issue you have about it. It is just a gesture, like holding a door open or letting her go in first. You would probably do that because it doesn't cost you anything. Ewww. El cheapo. Rude. People know this-girls or guys. It just looks tacky. Like it or not. We did not make the rules.

Now-if we flagged the waitress down and asked for a drink-we would most certainly ask the same for you. We are not afraid to buy a drink for someone. We all still do this to this day. It basically says you are friends. You are so afraid of the "who says I have to thing" that you have probably missed out on some decent possibilities. Get over the control thing-it is not as expected as it is just kind and we all want to be with someone kind.

All that said, I think you would absolutely love Fremont St. and could do all you have mentioned you wish to do there. And its usually less expensive. Big fun there! I think there are less "club-by" people there.

Good luck!!! I am moving there in August!!

[Mack wild]

Hmmm. I know you want this thread to die, but it is so entertaining. Really, I couldn't resist.

Female here, with lots of female experience through not only myself but my friends and acquaintances. Women talk-I listen.

I do not know any high roller types, so since that is not what you want, this is good. We do not go to high falooting-expensive clubs-here or the many times I have been to Vegas. We do and have however, enjoyed going to many "fun" bars and most of us went hoping to "talk" to guys. We did not need them to be rich or have over the top looks-just sensible, nice, cute, friendly guys. We were all very aware of what most guy's intentions were and for the most part we weren't going there in one night. Some of us did and either enjoyed it or regretted it. Some got relationships out of it, some didn't. Simple right? This sounds like the kind of group of girls you are looking to hang with. We were all good looking-no warts on the noses or extremely obese women. Most had good or better jobs and supported theirselves just fine. Did not NEED a man-just wanted one to compliment their lives occasionally. No harm,
no foul.

Thank you for being honest, that is definately my experience of how most women think. It's just that this society is so hypacritical towards women that women feel they must attack any idea of sex before love or marriage. Whats worst is the clueless guys who agree with them and back them up, thinking that they will "get in" with them that way. lol. Women arn't stupid guys, get a clue.

BUT-and you knew there was a but...if a guy or group of guys came over and hung out with us and the waitress came by and he only bought himself a beer and didn't even say, "do you need one?"-he was stamped a big fat jerk and slide down to the bottom of the list. That does not have anything to do with this obvious control issue you have about it. It is just a gesture, like holding a door open or letting her go in first. You would probably do that because it doesn't cost you anything. Ewww. El cheapo. Rude. People know this-girls or guys. It just looks tacky. Like it or not. We did not make the rules.

This might be some sort of a culture thing over there on the west coast. There are many that advocate against buying drinks on the west coast though. Regardless if I was enjoying my time with these girls and they had earned it, I might buy them drinks. More likely if I wasn't quite sure about them yet, and someone came up to get drink orders I might say "hey does anyone want to buy a drink?" That is being polite and looking out for people too.

On the East coast where "I" live I have gone as far as to look at the girl when the shotgirl comes up to us and be like "you should buy me a drink, that would be really sweet." With a smile on my face.

My opinion is that if a guy is bringing value to a group and they want him to be there and they enjoy him and are having fun, then the fact that he doesn't buy them a drink should not ruin the vibe. It does not have to mean that he is a cheapskate. If he is a cool guy and you can tell he is not just out for himself or some kind of a punk than your not even going to think of him that way. I might even be like "ok heres the deal" and come up with some funky game where if I win she buys me a drink and if she wins, I buy her a drink. Women want to be treated equally, and men do treat them equally at this point, so does society. They should start being ok with truely being equal if thats what they want.

Im not above buying girls drinks, but If that is what my character is based solely on then I will be happy to move on to the next set of girls. If I am enjoying them and having a great time with them, I might buy the drinks. When I take a girl out to go somewhere and it is my idea, I pay for the whole thing. The serious girlfriends I have had (and sometimes solid flings), I whisk them off randomly to cool faraway places just for the experience and get romantic hotel rooms and buy elaborate dinners. Even if I am tight on money, I use plastic. I'm not cheap and I am not someone who comes off that way -- but I am not someone who tries to get in with people I barely know by flaunting or buying drinks either. I think I have enough people skills to not come off as someone who's value hinges on whether or not I offer to buy a round of drinks or not.

Now-if we flagged the waitress down and asked for a drink-we would most certainly ask the same for you. We are not afraid to buy a drink for someone. We all still do this to this day. It basically says you are friends. You are so afraid of the "who says I have to thing" that you have probably missed out on some decent possibilities. Get over the control thing-it is not as expected as it is just kind and we all want to be with someone kind.

Again maybe this is a culture thing. On the east coast we have a lot of girls running around looking for free drinks. I even joke around with girls and we play a game where she see's if she can get a drink off guy A or guy B. I know how women operate and I've heard all the stories. I've got a lot of free drinks by having girls get me free drinks from other men - lol - and I make it a "fun" thing not a cheap thing. Women always know I am kind so I dont need to buy them drinks to display that. I can give them a good shoulder message or teach them how to give killer hugs instead.

All that said, I think you would absolutely love Fremont St. and could do all you have mentioned you wish to do there. And its usually less expensive. Big fun there! I think there are less "club-by" people there.

Good luck!!! I am moving there in August!!

Watch out Vegas -- trouble is brewing. lol.