[BBMW]

That what he did to the woman in question, and maybe a lot of others, closely fits the legal definition of sexual harassment, and if he took it to trial, he'd lose, and would face many more lawsuits that he would lose.

You (and he) can spin this any way you want, to zero effect. What I just said is the bottom line in this situation, and the way events have played out confirms that.

Originally Posted by Hughie

Admission of what, that he used prostitutes?

[foundapeanut]

One of my friends (who was an exec with his group) told us over a decade ago about Steve and his Mirage villas. She was farily new and had asked her boss why they weren't using them for customers to stay in, to bring in money. He told her I will tell you this once, those are for Steve's private use. Don't bring it up again and don't talk about it with others. Now it was brought up about the villa's in the RJ article that was scrapped.

Steve left her alone (she was very attractive) but he needed her knowledge base. She would of told him to cram it and have a job with one of his competitors the next day. He brought her here from out of town.

He knew who to prey on, those that had to keep their jobs to support families.

[BBMW]

^
I knew he used the villas for personal use. I assume now he'll have to move out.

What RJ article are you talking about?

[foundapeanut]

^^^ I think it was in Monday's paper.
Ok so if you knew he used the villas for personal use, was this common knowledge?( There were like 8 or 11 of them? We said why does he need so many? Then in Monday's paper it was mentioned a manicurist was told to go into one with a German tourist.

Anyone remember a couple times in the last 15 years a guy coming forward saying Wynn got him prostitutes and coke. He was Asian. Joe Francis, of girls gone wild fame had a beef with Wynn. Wynn sure hauled him into court and won. Of course Joe Francis isn't the most upstanding character. So Wynn will go to court if he can win, no pun intended.

Originally Posted by BBMW

People shake down casinos and rich people (independently) with lawsuits all the time. Two things usually happen. Either they get a small "go away" settlement, or if the numbers are big enough, the sued party fights. Two bit, unjustified shakedowns don't get seven figure settlements. If the settlement for for $50K, I'd believe what your saying.

But a settlement that big is tantamount to an admission. He and his lawyers (and her lawyers) knew that if the lawsuit and settlement went public, all the old skeletons would could flying out of the closes. So it paid her big money to shut up.

AGREE!

Wynn would certainly have a huge umbrella policy covering himself and his hotels. He could of used that for his version of 'phony allegations.'

If we have umbrella policies, he certainly would.

But they don't get involved nor wouldn't pay for something like this. If you have one, read the fine print.

He needed this to go away, she had reported him to HR right after it occurred. Of course they did nothing. There was plenty of witnesses, that he had done things. Once lawyers get invovled people usually will talk.

This was the civil part of what could turn into a criminal case. he had a lot to lose. He needed it to go away quietly, without even Elaine finding out.

So what is he to do. $7.5 million is nothing to him. And well worth it to keep his reputation and the facade to continue that he created.

[Willy702]

CEO's of all the Strip operators use the villas. Most use them on weekdays when there are no customers needing them and gladly vacate them when they are needed because anyone using a villa is theoretically worth a lot of money to the company. When Gary Loveman used to come out weekly he stayed in the villas at Caesars and Rio. Mark Frissora is staying in the Caesars villas now. Terry Lanni when he was CEO was well known to be a villa resident on the weekdays before going home to So Cal on the weekends. Jim Murren doesn't really need them, he's got a palace to go home to, but surely he's stayed in them at times. So yeah this is no news about the villas for people who are in the industry, maybe its just not been told as openly to the wider public. These guys all have a lifestyle such that you won't find them staying in a run of the house room in one of their resorts, nor do they sit in coach on flights. Steve Wynn isn't vacating the villas, they were built for him and he's going to continue living there. Maybe as part of the final settlement terms for villa servicing and any implied payments he makes for them will be set.

And for everyone who thinks because he's stepped down he's not around are just kidding themselves. Former CEO's and Chairman of the Boards get offices they can use at their discretion on site at almost every major company. This is completely commonplace, they come and go as they please. They usually get some sort of consulting agreement in fact which pays them to show up once in awhile. Don't know if that will happen here due to the sensitivity of the situation, but Steve Wynn ain't going anywhere and his holdings in the company assure this. The removal is for appearances only so he won't be showing up on behalf of the company anywhere, but he's going to be in contact with plenty of the people in charge on an hourly or daily basis until he decides its time to call it quits on his terms.

[vegaspilgrimage]

Originally Posted by BBMW

This isn't a court of law. This is the court of public opinion. There's no presumption of innocence. In point of fact, the opposite is more likely. As far as I've heard, there isn't any criminal case. I haven't even heard of any open civil cases (at the moment. I'm sure Gloria Allred is gassing up her broom and will be flying into the middle of this momentarily.)

This is about how Steve Wynn's presence, physically and in name, effects his former company. And that is hugely about perception. And we all know what the perception of him is right now.

There was no public opinion. There was the Wall Street Journal and the other clown fake news media owned by the same money interests connected to MGM who began parroting on cue. SQUAWK SQUAWK. I never heard anyone talking bad about Wynn or his properties from this "scandal". He jumped way too soon, or someone made a threat that isn't being communicated. Just days before, Wynn was ready to fight back.

Originally Posted by BBMW

The brand is HIS NAME. The brand is based on his reputation. The brand and him are completely inseparable. The brand is toast.

You think you have this all figured out but you're making it all up.

Originally Posted by BBMW

That what he did to the woman in question, and maybe a lot of others, closely fits the legal definition of sexual harassment, and if he took it to trial, he'd lose, and would face many more lawsuits that he would lose.

You (and he) can spin this any way you want, to zero effect. What I just said is the bottom line in this situation, and the way events have played out confirms that.

No, it fits the definition of an ACCUSATION. Those are worth nothing. Let's bring YOU to the court of public opinion right here and now since you're such a fan of justice. Did Steve Wynn turn you down for being too ugly at any point in time? BBMW sounds like an extreme porn classification. Big Beautiful Midget Woman. I accuse you of being ugly. Now that I have accused you, by your rules, I can now say it is fact that you are ugly. Ready to talk about bottom lines?

Originally Posted by Willy702

And for everyone who thinks because he's stepped down he's not around are just kidding themselves. Former CEO's and Chairman of the Boards get offices they can use at their discretion on site at almost every major company. This is completely commonplace, they come and go as they please. They usually get some sort of consulting agreement in fact which pays them to show up once in awhile. Don't know if that will happen here due to the sensitivity of the situation, but Steve Wynn ain't going anywhere and his holdings in the company assure this. The removal is for appearances only so he won't be showing up on behalf of the company anywhere, but he's going to be in contact with plenty of the people in charge on an hourly or daily basis until he decides its time to call it quits on his terms.

Thank God. Wynn IS Vegas, whether BBMW likes it or not. That is the bottom line.

[BBMW]

If this was made up, do you not think one if the richest men in the country would not be going after them in and out of court for defamation. He knows he can't fight too hard, because he'd lose.

Originally Posted by vegaspilgrimage

There was no public opinion. There was the Wall Street Journal and the other clown fake news media owned by the same money interests connected to MGM who began parroting on cue. SQUAWK SQUAWK. I never heard anyone talking bad about Wynn or his properties from this "scandal". He jumped way too soon, or someone made a threat that isn't being communicated. Just days before, Wynn was ready to fight back.

So it's NOT his name on the building, and on absolutely everything else identifying the company? What do you think I'm making up.

You think you have this all figured out but you're making it all up.

It ceases to become an accusation when you settle the case and pay a huge number.

No, it fits the definition of an ACCUSATION. Those are worth nothing. Let's bring YOU to the court of public opinion right here and now since you're such a fan of justice. Did Steve Wynn turn you down for being too ugly at any point in time? BBMW sounds like an extreme porn classification. Big Beautiful Midget Woman. I accuse you of being ugly. Now that I have accused you, by your rules, I can now say it is fact that you are ugly. Ready to talk about bottom lines?

I don't argue that Wynn didn't have a huge, and mostly positive influence on the development of Las Vegas. But apparently he has his personal issues, and they now crushed his career and legacy.

Thank God. Wynn IS Vegas, whether BBMW likes it or not. That is the bottom line.

[Hughie]

This is bordering the ridiculous. It seems that many posters here are acting like Canadians. Read this very carefully, some of you call it rape, some call it sexual harassment accusations, when in fact, NOBODY is accusing Mr Wynn of anything. This is trash spewn out by a vengeful ex ex wife, and a progressive "journalist" with political agendas. Where do any of you see any formal accusations? An article written by info that was spoon fed to her is somehow called allegations or charges. There are none. I am certain Mr Wynn had sex or thereabouts in exchange for money. This is PROSTITUTION. If he chose to pay hush money that's his and the prostitutes prerogative.

[lvmensch]

Originally Posted by Hughie

This is bordering the ridiculous. It seems that many posters here are acting like Canadians. Read this very carefully, some of you call it rape, some call it sexual harassment accusations, when in fact, NOBODY is accusing Mr Wynn of anything. This is trash spewn out by a vengeful ex ex wife, and a progressive "journalist" with political agendas. Where do any of you see any formal accusations? An article written by info that was spoon fed to her is somehow called allegations or charges. There are none. I am certain Mr Wynn had sex or thereabouts in exchange for money. This is PROSTITUTION. If he chose to pay hush money that's his and the prostitutes prerogative.

There is lots of evidence of harassment and coerced sex. The RJ article on the story they killed in 1998 is an example

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In a lawsuit, a Mirage cocktail server alleged supervisors did not protect women from gamblers who harassed them. She said waitresses were sent to sexually “accommodate” high rollers at the resort’s luxury villas throughout the 1990s.

Another server, upon bragging about her first grandchild in the early 1990s, reportedly was pressured into having sex with Wynn, who said he wanted to experience sex with a grandmother, according to a court filing.

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And there are lots of others.

Face it. Wynn behaved like the stereotypical casino executive. Right out of Playboy.

[foundapeanut]

Originally Posted by Hughie

This is bordering the ridiculous. It seems that many posters here are acting like Canadians. Read this very carefully, some of you call it rape, some call it sexual harassment accusations, when in fact, NOBODY is accusing Mr Wynn of anything. This is trash spewn out by a vengeful ex ex wife, and a progressive "journalist" with political agendas. Where do any of you see any formal accusations? An article written by info that was spoon fed to her is somehow called allegations or charges. There are none. I am certain Mr Wynn had sex or thereabouts in exchange for money. This is PROSTITUTION. If he chose to pay hush money that's his and the prostitutes prerogative.

What have Canadians done to you?

What is ridiculous is all the info posted and you still choose to ignore it. She was his employee, not a prostitute. He just thinks he can treat the lower level women that way.

So you are certain Wynn had sex for money? Do you frequent the same places?



I'm predicting this will open some more flood gates of high level men being busted for their dirty deeds. My entertainment friends in LA says their will be a few more exposed.

I heard plenty of people talk bad about Wynn. But our work take us to the strip almost weekly, so of course we've heard things for 2 decades.