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Old 10-20-2007, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Issaquah, WA
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Gaming is a voluntary activity and the house edge is understood. Being fleeced insinuates that one does not enter into the agreement voluntarily, which is not true.

I agree that gambling is a problem for many Las Vegans, and that gaming funded education has resulted in an underfunded school system, but there are shades of responsibility that you don't understand or refuse to acknowledge.

Don't you think that being one of the few states which proudly refuse to collect state income tax would attract people who are loathe to pay taxes and may not believe in big government spending? If you demand better social programs and facilities, than the local tax structure perhaps isn't suited for you.
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Old 10-20-2007, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Upstate NY!
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Don't you think that being one of the few states which proudly refuse to collect state income tax would attract people who are loathe to pay taxes and may not believe in big government spending? If you demand better social programs and facilities, than the local tax structure perhaps isn't suited for you.
It's kind of catch-22...one of the things that attracts so many new residents to the LV area is absence of state income tax in NV. Unfortunately, after they make the relocation there, they are then disappointed and shocked not to have the government services, great schools, etc. that they had grown accustomed to where they lived previously, and where they were taxed more heavily.

Chest's comment is right on. People should do their homework, first, before moving there. If they are looking for great government services and the like...perhaps LV (and all of NV) is not for them. Those that move to Las Vegas under the assumption that it exists for its residents will be sadly disappointed. Las Vegas exists almost solely for the tourists. And unfortunately, as those tourists whoop it up and lay thousands of dollars at the craps table...schooling and government services in the surrounding area don't even cross their minds for a nano-second!

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Old 10-20-2007, 12:59 PM
 
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You bring strong opinions and shallow understanding to the discussion.

The last time a broad tax was defeated was in the 2003 legislative session when the gaming industry supported a broad based business tax. The state chamber of commerces however ganged up and killed that. It quite well demonstrated that the other business interests in Nevada could well over-ride gaming and the governments when it came to taxes.

Numerous groups have veto power. Gaming among others.

Hangon. You are about to see the gaming tax increased. And I don't think there is anyway the gaming industry will avoid it. Initiatives are fun.
Either way, gaming tax increase, or no, the ones that will get screwed for their whining will be the LOCALS, corporate entities will not see their bottom line shrink due to the wishes of NEWBIES. Employees, and locals will bear the brunt if taxes are increased. Kill the golden goose, FOOLS.
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Old 10-20-2007, 01:12 PM
 
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If we are talking about what the gaming industry does to Las Vegas and what effect it's lack of tax support does to the infrastructure, think about many of our major cities in the U.S. With this global economy, big corporations can only see the bottom line and their profit dollars, just like casino's. In our state, we give the big companies tax deferments to locate here with the promise of all the jobs they will bring. Oh yes, they do bring jobs...the minimum number required and then all production and manufacturing is done overseas to max up their bottom profit line. Bottom line: we are left with the same thing...bridges ready to cave in and schools with low achievement test results. Every election we see levy after levy on the ballot for the local citizens to dip deeper in their pockets to support these things. If I'm not mistaken, Clark County has not raised taxes in over 30 years.

In this State, big business supports very little. It's the local tax payers. Perhaps if locals in L.V. had to dig deeply into their pockets to support every library, museum, park and school district as we do, to the tune of about $8000 per year and pay state tax as well, you might have a different take on this situation.
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Old 10-20-2007, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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It's kind of catch-22...one of the things that attracts so many new residents to the LV area is absence of state income tax in NV. Unfortunately, after they make the relocation there, they are then disappointed and shocked not to have the government services, great schools, etc. that they had grown accustomed to where they lived previously, and where they were taxed more heavily.

Chest's comment is right on. People should do their homework, first, before moving there. If they are looking for great government services and the like...perhaps LV (and all of NV) is not for them. Those that move to Las Vegas under the assumption that it exists for its residents will be sadly disappointed. Las Vegas exists almost solely for the tourists. And unfortunately, as those tourists whoop it up and lay thousands of dollars at the craps table...schooling and government services in the surrounding area don't even cross their minds for a nano-second!
I dont think people will move here just because there is no income tax. Just say people from CA would save 10% just from income tax wouldn't be enough for someone to move to a state without income tax. I would just move to Oregon and dont pay any sales tax if that was the case. People from CA move here because its cheaper to live here period. Schools are bad, roads are bad, healthcare is bad and they pay more taxes. But the price of a house and rent is also less than half of CA, and most people are willing to make that move for the perks of home ownership.


Did you check out this article?

https://www.city-data.com/forum/las-v...alifornia.html
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Old 10-20-2007, 01:38 PM
 
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I dont think people will move here just because there is no income tax. Just say people from CA would save 10% just from income tax wouldn't be enough for someone to move to a state without income tax. I would just move to Oregon and dont pay any sales tax if that was the case. People from CA move here because its cheaper to live here period. Schools are bad, roads are bad, healthcare is bad and they pay more taxes. But the price of a house and rent is also less than half of CA, and most people are willing to make that move for the perks of home ownership.


Did you check out this article?

https://www.city-data.com/forum/las-v...alifornia.html
Maybe you can explain to us all, why, as owner of A&A Pool Service, and your claim as a land owner in Clark County, you are under the radar as a land owner.
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Old 10-20-2007, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Maybe you can explain to us all, why, as owner of A&A Pool Service, and your claim as a land owner in Clark County, you are under the radar as a land owner.
Maybe if your were smart enough to use the search functions of LLCs or even Family trusts you would find out. Its all public record you know.

You have to give it up sometimes, your pride will kill you one day. We went through this before when you said I wasn't a legit and others found me as legit.
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Old 10-20-2007, 02:16 PM
 
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Maybe if your were smart enough to use the search functions of LLCs or even Family trusts you would find out. Its all public record you know.

You have to give it up sometimes, your pride will kill you one day. We went through this before when you said I wasn't a legit and others found me as legit.
Parcel#, please. Leave the last # blank.
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Old 10-20-2007, 02:20 PM
 
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This is getting really old, I think I'll go clean semen out of Floyd's pool now.
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Old 10-20-2007, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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This is getting really old, I think I'll go clean semen out of Floyd's pool now.
Let me know if you cant find it, I can use google maps to find it.

I hope you dont take all this personal right?
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