[Buzz123]

Originally Posted by southwest1230

I think you can attribute the problems unique to Vegas that indeed DO make it worse than most big cities(forget the cesspools like Detroit and Cleveland, we're talking typical cities), down to two. 1.)Vegas is a one-company town.....Of the casinos, by the casinos, and FOR the casinos. What should rightly go into tax coffers is skimmed by the casino-corporations more efficiently than Lefty Rosenthal and the Outfit could ever have imagined in their wildest dreams....this means no parks, schools, rec centers, pools, libraries, public buildings, services, for the locals. It makes for a crappy environment, and you therefore get a revolving door of residents, and no continuity that bodes pride of place. Where there is no pride of place, there is no joining of organizations, and an egregious amount of crime. And no one cares.....why should they?
2.) The revolving door of transiency...so many people coming and going, and not just tourists. They don't tell you that while 5,000 a month come, just about the same amount leave. If they all stayed, the metro area would be more on the cusp of 3 million now. Over the last 30 years, a good million folks bailed back to whence they came, and never looked back. Revolving door cities have no continuity on any level, breed crime, and keep the main godfather in the area, casinos, running the show. They want transiency, which stifles debate, and eliminates the possibility of any grass-roots bubbling up of tax referenda that would make Las Vegas a more livable city.
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SO, that's your answer in a nutshell as to why Vegas has problems as a livable city,
and why so many that come go right back out in the same revolving door. Hey, look
on the bright side, at least revolving doors can't hit you on the way out!
LOL!~

Even the title of this thread is ridiculous. Who says Las Vegas is unlivable? You? Who the he** are you? How long have you been here or do you even live here at all?

I just came back from two weeks back east traveling from Pennsylvania down through the south to Florida and I didn't see one single place that was even close to Las Vegas for livability. The humidity is so bad that the locals stay indoors. You are eaten up with mosquitoes, sand fleas, and other nasty things; there are snakes in people's swimming pools and houses in Florida and much of the south. It rains all the time and they say they are having a drought. Service for tourists doesn't exist anywhere. They can't wait tables or take care of hotel rooms properly. They impose the most an*l restrictions on you everywhere you go; there is no parking anywhere; the roads are too narrow and full of pot holes; it's dirty, old, moldy, and rundown. Towns are run by petty local politicians whose thinking is so small they steal pennies instead of dollars; rules are made by small minded hypocrites, and nobody is ever happy. They spend all their time talking behind each other's backs about the pettiest things that nobody here would ever even notice.

I have been everywhere in the United States and have only seen two or three places that might be as good as Las Vegas to live.

Entertainment and gambling is our steel, our coal, our shipping, our manufacturing. Get over it. Without that Las Vegas wouldn't exist. You hypocrites that find fault in gambling are the very ones who do it. Why don't you take a look at the illegal gambling that goes on in every city on earth? If you took your heads out of the sand you would see that there is more illegal gambling going on across the country than there is legal gambling in Nevada. I get sick of you a-holes saying, "Oh, Las Vegas, isn't it horrible? I go there all the time". What hypocrites.

You claim that 5,000 people a month move to Las Vegas and the same amount leaves. Well if that were true how in the he** would Las Vegas have grown from less than 200,000 in the mid 1960's to almost 2 million today? 5000 X 12 = 60,000 X 20 years = 1.2 million. 20 years ago Las Vegas had about 400,000. You do the math.

I wish none of you had ever come here and if you would now leave I'd be a very happy person.

[gulfer]

AMEN BUZZ...great to see you back. I have lived in Norfolk, Virginia and Jacksonville, FL. While I liked Florida, it was VERY EXPENSIVE to be a tourist. Norfolk if not the arm pit of the world, it is just a stone throw from D.C.
Getting fired up for your city is great to see if you ask me. Those that say they can't wait until they can leave were probably the fools that bought a home for 180K a few years back, had someone appraise it in 2005 for 350K, so refinanced and spent the equity thinking it would be the next L.A. Now the mortgage reset, the payments are 2 or 3 times what it was before and they are still making the same amount of money. Have no fear, I'll be out there shortly to buy your REO!!!!!

[jfkIII]

Welcome back, Buzz. Glad to hear you're so relaxed after your 2-week vacation!

[cjski21]

Very nice post. Well said Buzz. I'm new to this city but I agree. Where I was born, Detroit, we relied on the auto industry. They left, now look at Detroit. It is in shambles. The Downtown area is coming back to life because of the new MGM and the sorts. That's right, gaming is helping to save Detroit. The casinos and Vegas ain't going anywhere, tourist will continue to flock here and give the area their hard earned money. This is the world's playground. People knew that before moving here, now they want to complain about the very things that attracted them to this city. That is stupid, grow up!

Vegas will always be, even after your hometown closes their plants and sawmills and steelmills. Vegas will be here after the mines dry up and the oilfields are abandoned. Vegas will be here because no matter how bleak the future seems, people NEED a place like Vegas to escape. The people who sold your town's industries need a place to blow their new fortunes and the ones living in the newly depressed areas need a break so they will come to Vegas. This city is what it is, get used to it, the city is not going to abandon the very industry that makes Nevada one of the wealthiest states in the union. So quit demanding that it do so.

Unlivable? Not in the least. Very livable if you ask me. The best place I have lived in my short life so far. I have lived all over this fine country and nowhere do American values show like they do here, this is a state that truly does know the meaning of freedom and the pursuit of happyness. My opinion, take it for what it is worth, respect it and I will respect yours.

[guinnessjim]

Originally Posted by guinnessjim

that's retarded...

your emotional connections to others are directly related to your own ability to form them...and roots are for trees, not people. it is important to remember them, but sad when you are constrained by them (and i am not referring to people who choose to stay somewhere to help w/ family issues...there is a nobility in giving up what you want to help those who need you)

some people can't do well away from their "safety nets" and will therefore have problems regardless where they go. the same can be said for people with addiction problems...gamblers should stay away from gambling, alcoholics should stay away from drinking, tweekers need to stay away from meth...

the knock you can say on vegas is that some vices are more readily available here...but people will find them anywhere if they need them.

comes back around full circle to LV is not for everyone, although everyone should have the option to "roll the dice" and see for themselves

wow...someone gave me a negative rep point for this post.

i stand by what i said.

[cjski21]

Good job. Stand up for your beliefs, no matter what. I agree with your post 100% too.

[guinnessjim]

Originally Posted by cjski21

Good job. Stand up for your beliefs, no matter what. I agree with your post 100% too.

always do...thanks

[Matt Angry]

Originally Posted by guinnessjim

wow...someone gave me a negative rep point for this post.

i stand by what i said.

I'd give you some rep back, but I have to spread the love more........

I too thought it was a good post.

[dynimagelv]

Originally Posted by Matt Angry

I'd give you some rep back, but I have to spread the love more........

I too thought it was a good post.

Same with me....gotta spread the luv

[jfkIII]

I thought it was a good post, too. (maybe it was the 'retarded' thing???? I know some people don't like that word if they know someone with that particular mental handicap...just guessing here? )