[Buzz123]

Originally Posted by cjski21

Very nice post. Well said Buzz. I'm new to this city but I agree. Where I was born, Detroit, we relied on the auto industry. They left, now look at Detroit. It is in shambles. The Downtown area is coming back to life because of the new MGM and the sorts. That's right, gaming is helping to save Detroit. The casinos and Vegas ain't going anywhere, tourist will continue to flock here and give the area their hard earned money. This is the world's playground. People knew that before moving here, now they want to complain about the very things that attracted them to this city. That is stupid, grow up!

Vegas will always be, even after your hometown closes their plants and sawmills and steelmills. Vegas will be here after the mines dry up and the oilfields are abandoned. Vegas will be here because no matter how bleak the future seems, people NEED a place like Vegas to escape. The people who sold your town's industries need a place to blow their new fortunes and the ones living in the newly depressed areas need a break so they will come to Vegas. This city is what it is, get used to it, the city is not going to abandon the very industry that makes Nevada one of the wealthiest states in the union. So quit demanding that it do so.

Unlivable? Not in the least. Very livable if you ask me. The best place I have lived in my short life so far. I have lived all over this fine country and nowhere do American values show like they do here, this is a state that truly does know the meaning of freedom and the pursuit of happyness. My opinion, take it for what it is worth, respect it and I will respect yours.

Great post. Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Buzz123]

Am I supposed to be grading people here? I never pay attention to rep points. Should I? I don't even understand how they work...or care.

[guinnessjim]

Originally Posted by Buzz123

Am I supposed to be grading people here? I never pay attention to rep points. Should I? I don't even understand how they work...or care.

meh....i just noticed today that there was a summary on them in settings area.

struck me as odd that someone would ding me on that post...but jfk is pbby right about the 'retarded' phrase...i looked back and the comment was 'inappropriate'.

whatever...if that was the reason, the person knew the context in which 'retarded' was being used, and what was meant by it. the word has more meaning as a slang than it did as an inadequate description of a wide range of mental handicaps. in fact, in general modern usage (even in an age of crazy PC...and i know PC - i lived in CA ) i'd bet that vastly more people use it in the slang form then use it in any derogatory sense.

actually, somebody being offended enough by that to go through the trouble of scolding me for it -- well, that's.........that's odd

*you thought i was going to say retarded, didn't you

[southwest1230]

Originally Posted by smalltownusa

City of Sin in more ways than ten.....humans resort to "animal" (dog eat dog) behavior when there are no roots or emotional connection to others.....

This is pretty much my point. Think of this.."Local's casinos" are defacto neighborhood gathering points throughout the city and suburbs. Isn't it sad that only a business that is just looking for your cash to feed in the machines
is your community center? They even advertise these ______station local casinos as such. Is that the best place locals can bond together as a neighborhood? That's what leads to the transiency and lack of neighborhood involvement that brings out that animal nature. Remove the facade of civility, and you have nothing but our animal nature underneath.......you can largely blame the lack of any local community involvement other than "locals casinos" for that abject lack of concern for one's fellowman that makes Vegas one of the most unlivable, transient, cold-hearted environments in the US.

[southwest1230]

Originally Posted by cjski21

Very nice post. Well said Buzz. I'm new to this city but I agree. Where I was born, Detroit, we relied on the auto industry. They left, now look at Detroit. It is in shambles. The Downtown area is coming back to life because of the new MGM and the sorts. That's right, gaming is helping to save Detroit. The casinos and Vegas ain't going anywhere, tourist will continue to flock here and give the area their hard earned money. This is the world's playground. People knew that before moving here, now they want to complain about the very things that attracted them to this city. That is stupid, grow up!

Vegas will always be, even after your hometown closes their plants and sawmills and steelmills. Vegas will be here after the mines dry up and the oilfields are abandoned. Vegas will be here because no matter how bleak the future seems, people NEED a place like Vegas to escape. The people who sold your town's industries need a place to blow their new fortunes and the ones living in the newly depressed areas need a break so they will come to Vegas. This city is what it is, get used to it, the city is not going to abandon the very industry that makes Nevada one of the wealthiest states in the union. So quit demanding that it do so.

Unlivable? Not in the least. Very livable if you ask me. The best place I have lived in my short life so far. I have lived all over this fine country and nowhere do American values show like they do here, this is a state that truly does know the meaning of freedom and the pursuit of happyness. My opinion, take it for what it is worth, respect it and I will respect yours.

http://www.americangaming.org/assets/images/hof/Steve_Wynn-SMALL.JPG (broken link)

Just one question..if the rest of the US, particularly the midwest and Northeast, is rusted out and jobless, where will folks get the money to spend in Vegas? Vegas has a sweet point per tourists, and that is middle america. The rich aren't that big on vegas, and only so much of them to go around. If you shut down the rest of the US, the strip will be just as shuttered as the factories and cities out east. My main point is that relying on ONE industry is not healthy for any city, even las vegas with gambling. Besides the fact that there are thousands of legal gambling alternatives all over the us, from casinos to off track-betting, the problem is that a one-trick pony does not a circus make. Not only does it keep the collective skill level down per hospitality, ala Orlando, there is always a chance the tourists really will stop coming. Shortly after sep 11, 2001, there was a great dropoff for a year, than it slowly came back. Never, ever count on any single industry staying forever. And the main point is, in a one-industry town, when that industry goes, you have a ghost town left, like the old mining towns in the past, or Detroit in the present...............

[guinnessjim]

Originally Posted by southwest1230

This is pretty much my point. Think of this.."Local's casinos" are defacto
neighborhood gathering points throughout the city and suburbs. Isn't it sad
that only a business that is just looking for your cash to feed in the machines
is your community center? They even advertise these ______station local
casinos as such. Is that the best place locals can bond together as a neighborhood? That's what leads to the transiency and lack of neighborhood involvement that brings out that animal nature. Remove the facade of civility,
and you have nothing but our animal nature underneath.......Thats what causes the animal-like nature of Las Vegas residents, particularly in the north las vegas area, which is 100% animal.

wow....just wow. did you get your hood w/ that view point? you started out vaguely trying to make a point and ended up there?

i'm not even going to argue the local side of vegas w/ you as i think you have already closed your mind to it.

[JesusisLord]

Originally Posted by WildWestDude

Pretty much the whole city runs on the scam of the casinos.
The have the legal right to steal from people. We have been conditioned to say, " I lost money, but had a good time" or that its was "entertainment". This is for our hard working money. As long as they pray on that weakness they will be king.

Well, guess what my good friend. Jesus died and rose again so you don't have to be a slave to addictions, including heavy gambling. This is said in the Bible, so you have the power to overcome every addiction through Jesus' word, the Bible. Attend a strong bible based church, and understand Jesus has destroyed addictions off our lives. I was heavily involved in pornography, and Jesus broke the power of it off me! I'm tired of people being controlled by addictions, give Jesus your life!

Praise the Lord!

"You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free."

[guinnessjim]

Originally Posted by southwest1230

This is pretty much my point. Think of this.."Local's casinos" are defacto neighborhood gathering points throughout the city and suburbs. Isn't it sad that only a business that is just looking for your cash to feed in the machines
is your community center? They even advertise these ______station local casinos as such. Is that the best place locals can bond together as a neighborhood? That's what leads to the transiency and lack of neighborhood involvement that brings out that animal nature. Remove the facade of civility, and you have nothing but our animal nature underneath.......you can largely blame the lack of any local community involvement other than "locals casinos" for that abject lack of concern for one's fellowman that makes Vegas one of the most unlivable, transient, cold-hearted environments in the US.

you can edit the above post all you want...your original words, etc. are quoted in my post.

[jfkIII]

wow...this thread is starting to become bizarre!

[olecapt]

Originally Posted by guinnessjim

you can edit the above post all you want...your original words, etc. are quoted in my post.

Great one Jim...right on..and JFK I think ole southwest is mostly typical of the Vegas knockers...who do tend to be a bizarre bunch.

"Local Casins" role in neighborhoods is much more that of a shopping mall than of a neighborhood gathering place. They draw on large areas and provide restaurant and entertainment to the area. Some gamble most don't.

Sometimes the VP parlors serve as neighborhood gathering places. Though again the vast majority use them as restaurants and bars. Only a minority gamble.