Long ago on independence square (Kansas City: annually, investment, boats)

[WCHS'59]

Originally Posted by MRG Dallas

Good grief!! Sales taxes are THAT high, and that's in addition to a Mo income tax? Sheesh . . . and here in Dallas I thought 8.25% is outrageous and that's with NO Tx income tax! Wow, stunned at how much it's risen since I left town. Can't remember what it was but had to be below 7% (1984)

That is the sales tax in total, Independence, County, State. But you are right, it is high considering there is an income tax. I also saw something about a use tax of about the same amount. Not sure what that was.

At one time, and this might have been only in the fifties, Independence relied on the property tax to generate the majority of its revenue.

[WCHS'59]

Originally Posted by MRG Dallas

This begs the question as to where the meat delivery truck is doing business, especially given the direction of the vehicle and driver.

I had the same thought as to where he was delivering. I also wondered if they just threw the meat into the back of that truck. It does not appear to have refrigeration. By '55 Snow was using larger refrigerated trucks to deliver to C&J United Super.

They might have done like the RRs used to do. Use ice.

[SilverDoc]

Originally Posted by MRG Dallas

I'm guessing that is circa 1948 although I don't have a clue as to the years of the cars. But that is the first year I see that has that string of businesses. I'm surprised steel trap-mind WCHS doesn't remember Bormaster Shoes, that business was there for quite awhile.

108 Bormaster's
110 Baker's
112 Chas Betts Jewelers
Up above is Vernon Galloway Photographer (although a magnifying glass looks like it might say "Waters" to the far right)

This begs the question as to where the meat delivery truck is doing business, especially given the direction of the vehicle and driver. To the Lexington side was Sturges Jewelry at 106; Sally's favorite Tasty Ice Cream at 104; Gellen's women's clothing at 102 and the Pendleton & Gentry Drug Co on the corner at 100. Unless drugstores, clothiers, ice cream shops or jewelers were also in the meat business, then I suspect the delivery was meant for a Morris Buffet, which was on the corner at Maple, 114 N. Liberty.

As WCHS mentioned, Jones took over 100 - 108. Sturges relocated to 112 and Leighter's went in at 114.

Below the photographer sign, does it look to you like it says something about Turner Music? It seems like the words are on a music staff.

[SilverDoc]

Originally Posted by WCHS'59

I had the same thought as to where he was delivering. I also wondered if they just threw the meat into the back of that truck. It does not appear to have refrigeration. By '55 Snow was using larger refrigerated trucks to deliver to C&J United Super.

They might have done like the RRs used to do. Use ice.

Dry ice, maybe?

[WCHS'59]

Originally Posted by SilverDoc

Below the photographer sign, does it look to you like it says something about Turner Music? It seems like the words are on a music staff.

It looks like it could be but I could not get the photo blown up enough to tell for sure. That definitely is a music staff and music lines, though.

[WCHS'59]

Originally Posted by SilverDoc

Dry ice, maybe?

Had not thought of dry ice.

My vision of what was in the back of that truck was that there was not a very sanitary condition.

Maybe that was the way it was back then.

[SilverDoc]

Originally Posted by WCHS'59

It looks like it could be but I could not get the photo blown up enough to tell for sure. That definitely is a music staff and music lines, though.

Whenever I'm looking at old photos taken on city streets, I like to check out signs on the buildings, and in the windows. I look at photos at shorpy.com because they have so many old pictures and in great detail, too! You can go from a small size to super size and really check out the details. I'm thinking of buying a few prints. Try typing in Kansas City and a few photos come up. One is of the area downtown called "The Junction". Check it out!

[SilverDoc]

Originally Posted by WCHS'59

Had not thought of dry ice.

My vision of what was in the back of that truck was that there was not a very sanitary condition.

Maybe that was the way it was back then.

I'm sure it wasn't as clean as we're used to! But, people were a bit tougher back then. How about back in the late 19th and early 20th century when they had meat hanging outside, with no ice, no nothing! Well, they used a lot of salt, though.

[MRG Dallas]

Originally Posted by WCHS'59

It looks like it could be but I could not get the photo blown up enough to tell for sure. That definitely is a music staff and music lines, though.

It sure looks like that to me, using a magnifying glass, but not certain. That time period shows locations at 310 S. Main, then moving to 405 W. Lexington. Does anyone recognize it as similar to the old signage or logo? I'm looking to see if there is a logo on any ad space but so far, coming up empty.

Some of the Turners were music tutors so maybe on officed there, however, all Turners are showing up at the store locations.

[SilverDoc]

Originally Posted by WCHS'59

It looks like it could be but I could not get the photo blown up enough to tell for sure. That definitely is a music staff and music lines, though.

Originally Posted by MRG Dallas

It sure looks like that to me, using a magnifying glass, but not certain. That time period shows locations at 310 S. Main, then moving to 405 W. Lexington. Does anyone recognize it as similar to the old signage or logo? I'm looking to see if there is a logo on any ad space but so far, coming up empty.

Some of the Turners were music tutors so maybe on officed there, however, all Turners are showing up at the store locations.

It looks like maybe the sign has the Turner logo, but maybe I'm just imagining it since I think I see it. As far as one of the Turners tutoring upstairs, it's highly possible. Maybe a newer Sanborn map might show it?