2015 Hyundai Genesis or 2014 Impala LT/LTZ V6 (luxury, best, engine)

[Veyron]

Originally Posted by LRPct

Im actually pretty aware of Kia and Hyundais relationship. I actually worked for Hyundai in the development of the new Genesis. Thats why I had to ask the question. Because in reality they are two completely different companies that share no production or assembly facilities or employees at all. While it is true that both the percieved and actually quality of both have improved over the years they share nothing in company structure or communication/development any moreso than any other two seperate auto manufacturers. They share very few bits of hardware and absolutely no software and operate as two completely dfferent companies, of which Hyundai owns barely 30% of Kia, which is much less a percentage than they have owned many years ago.

So this increase in quality for Kia the poster that I originally quoted spoke of is really from overall competition and not so much to with the Genesis or the fact that the manufacture of the Genesis bought a stake in them. Many people mistakenly assume alot of how these two do business in relation to each other because of the minority ownership.

Dude are you kidding me the share the same engines!! They have the same gdi system.
What the heck are you talking about? Stop acting like you know what you are talking about.

I was actually working at a Kia dealership as a certified kia dealership tech I went to school for their cars.

Now I'm questioning your credibility. All you have to do is open a brochure a reputable dealership and find out that Hyundai and Kia share the same engines and have very similiar components.


Hyundai Tau engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tau engine
Specs: 383 hp
4.6 Tau MPi
2008 - 2009 Kia Mohave/Borrego
2008–Present Hyundai Genesis
5.0 Tau MPi
2011–Present Hyundai Genesis
2009–Present Hyundai Equus

The 3.3 L G6DB version was introduced with the 2006 Sonata. It produces 237–264 hp (177–197 kW; 240–268 PS) at 6,000 rpm and 230 lb·ft (312 N·m) of torque at 3,500 rpm depending on application.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Theta_engine

Hyundai 3.3L Lambda V6
The G6DB has an aluminum block and heads, variable valve timing on the intake side, and 4 valves per cylinder. Bore and stroke measure 92 x 83.8 mm (3.6 x 3.3 in) for a total displacement of 3342 cc.
The 3.3 L G6DH version was introduced with the 2012 Azera. It offers GDI and dual CVVT. The engine produces 294 hp (219 kW; 298 PS) at 6,400 rpm and 255 lb·ft (346 N·m) of torque at 5,200 rpm. The MPI version of this engine which was introduced with the 2009 Genesis in some markets. The engine produces 262 hp (195 kW; 266 PS) at 6,200 rpm and 233 lb·ft (316 N·m) of torque at 4,500 rpm in the Genesis and 270 hp (201 kW; 274 PS) at 6,400 rpm and 235 lb·ft (319 N·m) of torque at 5,300 rpm in the 2013 Santa Fe.
Applications:
2008-2011 Hyundai Azera (G6DB)
2012-present Hyundai Azera (G6DH)
2009-present Hyundai Genesis (G6DH)
2007-2009 Hyundai Santa Fe (G6DB)
2013-present Hyundai Santa Fe (G6DH)
2006-2009 Hyundai Sonata (G6DB)
[b]2007-2009 Kia Sorento (G6DB)[/B

3.5 L[edit]

The 3.5 L (3470 cc) G6DC Lambda II version debuted in the global version of the 2011 Kia Sorento. This engine comes with Dual CVVT and is rated at 276–286 hp (206–213 kW; 280–290 PS) at 6,300-6,600 rpm and 248 lb·ft (336 N·m) at 5,000 rpm depending on application. Bore x stroke measure 92 x 87 mm; it uses similar technology as the 3.3L and 3.8L variants of the Lambda family.
Hyundai debuted a GDI version of Lambda V6 at 2010 Beijing Auto Show. Hyundai presented few details but the engine has power rating of 298 hp (222 kW; 302 PS).
Applications:
2010-2012 Hyundai Santa Fe
2011- Kia Cadenza
2011- Kia Sedona
2011- Kia Sorento

Theta/Theta-II Engine - 2.0L (1998cc)[edit]
(G4KA, G4KD)


2011 Hyundai Sonata Limited 2.0T, turbo GDI engine
Hyundai Genesis Coupe Port Injected 2.0 Turbocharged (2010-)
Hyundai Sonata GDI 2.0 Turbocharged (2011-)
Kia Rondo (2007-)
Kia Forte 2.0 (2009-2013)
Kia Optima GDI 2.0 Turbocharged (2011-)
Kia Sportage GDI 2.0 Turbocharged (2011-)
Hyundai ix35 MPI 2.0 (2010-)

Theta/Theta-II Engine - 2.4L (2359cc)[edit]
(G4KC, G4KE)
Hyundai Sonata (2006–2010)
Hyundai Sonata GDI (2011-)
Hyundai Sonata (2011-) (Middle East)
Hyundai Tucson (2010-)
Hyundai Santa Fe (2010-)
Kia Optima (2006–2010)
Kia Optima GDI (2011-)
Kia Rondo (2007-)
Kia Cadenza GDI (2011-)
Kia Sportage (2011-)
Kia Sorento (2011-)
Kia Forte (2010-2013

You obviously have no clue what your talking about. I can sit here and list hundreds of components that Hyundai and Kia share in their vehicles. Do you want to continue argueing with a certified Kia/Hyundai technician are do you just want to stop spewing nonsense and act like you know what your talking about?

[Veyron]

Originally Posted by TheViking85

Huyndais and Kia are both made by the same company and have same quality levels, as they largely use the same parts, though there's no Kia equivalent to the Genesis, pretty much every other model is just a sporterized model of the Hyundai equivalent

Don't listen to that poster. He/She is obviously wrong and doesn't know squat about cars. He/She is obviously a liar as well. The first thing they said was that their too different cars. They probably couldn't change out a cv axle to save their lives. They didn't design squat.

The theta engine that comes in the genesis also comes in the optima. The gdi systems are exactly the same. There different for turbo and non turbo applications for both kia and hyundai. The drivetrain systems is whats different and hyundai cars being the acura, or lexus of kia get the more powerful versions of kia engines in their premium models.


As for the poster you should quit that habit of spreading false information when your proven wrong. Nothing irritates people more then a liar, or a person who insists they are right when they have no clue what they are talking about.



If you came to a car meet and said that we would have laughed at you all night.

You must have been on facebook the whole time while your co-workers were designing the genesis. LOL.

Like I sad I amazed with Kia, Hyundai, for increasing the quality in their vehicles.

[LRPct]

Wow.. your great at wiking. Yes I know they share some engines. Like I said they share some hardware. They are no where near the "made by the same company" like the poster I quoted stated though. They are two completely different companies. If you cant understand that then its because youre better at $10 an hour, c level, basic oil changes than understanding how a corporation works.

Congrats on a being a parts changer for a short time though. For someone who just a couple months ago who was asking 3rd grader questions about opening an illegal, uninsured "side shop" you sure talk alot like youve progressed some. You still have about .001% of the knowledge and experience that I have on this subject though.

Before you open your big fat mouth and insult people you should realize the world is alot bigger than your lil garage door especially since you seem to need alot of favors and hand holding from people to figure out how the business your in works and even how much one should be paid for performing the basics of it.

[Veyron]

Originally Posted by LRPct

Wow.. your great at wiking. Yes I know they share some engines. Like I said they share some hardware. They are no where near the "made by the same company" like the poster I quoted stated though. They are two completely different companies. If you cant understand that then its because youre better at $10 an hour, c level, basic oil changes than understanding how a corporation works.

Congrats on a being a parts changer for a short time though. For someone who just a couple months ago who was asking 3rd grader questions about opening an illegal, uninsured "side shop" you sure talk alot like youve progressed some. You still have about .001% of the knowledge and experience that I have on this subject though.

Before you open your big fat mouth and insult people you should realize the world is alot bigger than your lil garage door especially since you seem to need alot of favors and hand holding from people to figure out how the business your in works and even how much one should be paid for performing the basics of it.

They share some hardware...LMAO

THERE THE SAME EXACT CAR GENIUS!

They share the same engines smart one! BOY YOUR SMART! THE SAME TRANSMISSIONS. THE SAME TURBOS. THE SAME DRIVETRAINS. THERE THE SAME CARS. I specifically said KIA has improved meaning that the quality in their cars has improve. Hyundai and KIA share the same car parts. Do I really have to break this down for you? Really?

You don't even know what a c level tech is? Dude seriously. A lube technician is an oil changer.

C level technician does everything aside from heavy diagnostic work.They still do electrical system diagnosis, check engine lights, transmissions, fuel injectors, and so forth.

You sound more pathetic with each post.

Ummm..I'm a b level make 60k$ a year with sidework and I was a A C level tech making 35k.....
They have the same exact product with minimal differences what in god's name are you talking about...

Please..just go back in your hole back or go back under your bridge.



You probably don't even know what a fuel injector does. How does a gdi system work on the genesis? Yeah how does it work? You helped design it

How does the gdi system specifically work on the genesis. I don't know how it works...I'm just a part swapper. Please tell me..My degree in engineering and my kia certifications don't me squat since I'm just a part swapper.

[iTsLiKeAnEgG]

The KIA equivalent to the Genesis is the K900.

[LRPct]

Actually Kia doesnt have an equivalent to the Genesis in the U.S. The Kia K900 would be the equilavent of the Hyundai Equus in price, size and the pieces of platform and the engine they share. Thats why they sit on the similar 119 in wheelbase and not 115 in of the Genesis.

[Yuptag]

Honda Accord.

[SAAN]

This has turned into a Kia vs Hyundai War

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2015 Hyundai Genesis or 2014 Impala LT/LTZ V6

Which of these would you buy for $35,000
2015 Hyundai Genesis
2014 Impala LT/LTZ V6

[Gettingouttahere]

Hyundai. No contest. They're tanks. Our Santa Fe and Tiburon both went 250K-plus each. I've had two Chevys. One lasted to 104,000 miles (a Camaro) and one's engine blew apart at 155K (Blazer). Gimme a break. No more Chevys. Ever.

[ghostrider7811]

Chevy for sure.