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Old 11-12-2019, 08:04 PM
 
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They were recruited to come here by American companies, mostly due to shortages in health care fields. If you do t think that serves us, do t attack them, attack the corporate-friendly policies that encourage it. Vote for people who hold corporations accountable vs giving them a free pass on everything and then slashing their taxes for the cherry on the top.
That's what I'm doing opposing globalist corporations by attacking the government policy allowing immigration/foreign workers.
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Old 11-12-2019, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Caribou, Me.
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If the bolded is true, why are so many East Europeans given immigrant visas? The city of Sacramento didn't used to have a Russian community, but now it has a significant Russian enclave, with Ukrainians and Poles in the mix. The same is true of Walnut Creek, located between Sacramento and SF Bay.

Who are these "darker" people you believe are being deliberately imported (legally) to alter the skin tone of of towns or geographic areas?
At least your post has some specificity. Diversity efforts are usually vague and intentionally murky.

So you bring up Ukrainians: one could say that Ukrainians add to diversity, as they come from an area not far from Turkey, Georgia, etc......... or do they? Are they just plain, old whites, the same as every other kind?

(Russians are just plain old white, and thus add little to an area’s diversity..........or is that not correct? Many Russians are from Central Asia.....what about THOSE Russians??.....how about Kazakhs?? Clearly not white.......correct?? )
Bosnians and Kosovans are white.....but mostly Muslim. Do THEY add much to diversity efforts?
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Old 11-12-2019, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Do you really think people are being "brought in" to this country simply for the sake of diversity...to sort of spice up the neighborhood or as some sort of novelty family (our pet hispanic family, our asian family) ? Maybe like Trump's novelty "my African American"?

You apparently think there is some kind of clandestine effort to darken the country's skin tone and make "white" Americans extinct. This is a sick notion. Diversity has almost nothing to do with skin pigmentation.
First paragraph...right on. Second paragraph, first two sentences -- yup.
Second paragraph -- at least that last sentence -- nope.
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Old 11-12-2019, 08:14 PM
 
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The reason we are here is because immigration policies allowed our ancestors to come despite the opinions of the populace who claimed they shouldn’t be allowed in. That’s the point.
My first ancestors like many Americans almost all came long ago to America already British subject to the British colonies and weren't immigrants. But even if one's ancestors came from elsewhere later from Europe or wherever at a certain time after 1780s, that has no relevance to mass, global immigration today. If one's immigrant ancestor came from say Poland in 1910, that has no relevance on someone coming from Syria or where ever else today and tomorrow. That was the sensible concept behind immigration policy and national origins before 1965.
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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That makes no sense. Cinci for example is probably more diverse now than it's ever been but not as successful as it has been. You can apply this to a lot of American cities, including LA, more diverse now and less prosperous. Japan and China aren't as diverse and do plenty of trade.
West Virginia and Kentucky aren't ethnically and racially diverse, but are economically declining and suffer social problems associated with a stagnant economy, such as drug abuse.
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:32 PM
 
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West Virginia and Kentucky aren't ethnically and racially diverse, but are economically declining and suffer social problems associated with a stagnant economy, such as drug abuse.
Those are the few exceptions, hill country and long standing backwaters where most of the intelligent and ambitious leave. More diversity can't improve those areas either. If those areas became more prosperous, diversity would impose itself. Prosperity draws in diversity, diversity doesn't cause the prosperity.
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Old 11-12-2019, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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How do you explain the number of Somalians being permitted into this country? I asked a similar question of another poster, but she's ignored the question so far. What contributions are they making to the US? Why are they even here? How does the US benefit by allowing thousands of Somalians into our country? And can you explain why they're being placed in overwhelmingly white areas like Minnesota?
If you are seriously interested, there is lots of info on the web that answers your questions. But I suspect your post is more of a rant than a question. But here are two sources:

https://www.americanimmigrationcounc...n-system-works

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigr..._United_States


As far as the Somalian immigrants, which you seem focused on, most of the immigration has been as refugees fleeing the civil war which has raged there for 20 years. This was a humanitarian effort and still is. For whatever reason many of the first refugees went to Minnesota and others who have come over the years have joined the community there. It has nothing to do with Minnesota being white, it has to do with new immigrants looking for friends or community to help them get settled.
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Old 11-13-2019, 01:34 AM
 
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If you are seriously interested, there is lots of info on the web that answers your questions. But I suspect your post is more of a rant than a question. But here are two sources:

https://www.americanimmigrationcounc...n-system-works

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigr..._United_States


As far as the Somalian immigrants, which you seem focused on, most of the immigration has been as refugees fleeing the civil war which has raged there for 20 years. This was a humanitarian effort and still is. For whatever reason many of the first refugees went to Minnesota and others who have come over the years have joined the community there. It has nothing to do with Minnesota being white, it has to do with new immigrants looking for friends or community to help them get settled.
Regardless of why they have come here to live permanently, of all the places in the wide world they could go it doesn't and shouldn't be all the way here.
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Old 11-13-2019, 04:37 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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I've seen the term "forced" diversity used a few times lately on this and other threads.
Is it that someone is forcing you to wear dreadlocks, wear a sari or yarmulke, or eat a bowl of Menudo -- or is it that you just don't want to see someone in dreadlocks or wearing a sari or yarmulke or eating Menudo? I don't think anyone is being forced to do those things. If you are too snowflake sensitive to live where you might experience those elements of diversity, no one is forcing you to stay.

Some would favor forced conformity, and we tried that in very brutal ways with the Indians. The children were yanked out of families and sent to boarding schools where they were abused or punished for speaking their own language or behaving in a non-white cultural manner.
Most here would see you have things backwards. Was that intentional? There is a limit to how much of an alien culture intruding on a nation will be tolerated. Pushback is absolutely anticipated.
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Old 11-13-2019, 06:40 AM
 
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Thats an extreme view to say Its a country of inmugrants". , wasvoriginally founded as and
still a white majority christian nation that helps others. Rissia is also one, but you see the difference yourself.

That's not what she's saying, She's saying America was a country of red people, native Americans, it was never a white country until we started slaughtering the natives and stealing their land. In fact, white Europeans seem to be the most dangerous "immigrants" to a new land.
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