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Build the wall
Mandate e-verify
No more immigration judge hearings (this part of the process needs to be changed by law by the do nothing Congress)
No more 'catch and release' (see above. 99% of those given a notice to appear, uh, never appear!)
You get caught coming back in after you have been turned around, jail time. Hard jail time.
Make it a federal law that individual states cannot disperse tax-payer funded benefit programs to persons w/out legal status in the US
Repeal the 15th amendment (no more anchor babies).
And if 66% of all illegal immigrants are here simply because they overstayed visas, your plan won't solve the problem will it?
Common deflection point. Ok, what is your solution to THAT problem? The fact is, if the Consulates tighten the granting of visas, which they have, you'd be the first one to howl, calling it ban or whatever the meme of the day is.
Common deflection point. Ok, what is your solution to THAT problem? The fact is, if the Consulates tighten the granting of visas, which they have, you'd be the first one to howl, calling it ban or whatever the meme of the day is.
Most illegal aliens here are border jumpers not visa over stayers. I don't get the argument that the wall won't stop the latter as no one is claiming that it will so yes it is a common deflection. Both problems need to be addressed not just one or the other. The wall will help deter border jumpers and tracking visa over stayers will help curb that problem.
Most illegal aliens here are border jumpers not visa over stayers. I don't get the argument that the wall won't stop the latter as no one is claiming that it will so yes it is a common deflection. Both problems need to be addressed not just one or the other. The wall will help deter border jumpers and tracking visa over stayers will help curb that problem.
Most of the current illegal aliens arrivals appear to be over stayers. The border crossers are still the majority of the illegal popuation but most of them crossed over 10 years ago.
So do you want to stop them currently? Or do you want to stop those who used the more popular way a decade ago?
I would think better to work on the current arrivals first. So the priority should be how to limit over stayers.
Make it a felony to employ illegal aliens. Then lock up for 10-15 years a few big shot businessmen who employ them to show we aren’t screwing around. That will greatly reduce the incentive to illegal aliens and if they can’t get work they won’t come.
And that would be a great deal cheaper than building a wall and border security could be on a cheaper level, more as with Canada.
Last edited by Irishtom29; 04-28-2018 at 04:09 PM..
Most illegal aliens here are border jumpers not visa over stayers. I don't get the argument that the wall won't stop the latter as no one is claiming that it will so yes it is a common deflection. Both problems need to be addressed not just one or the other. The wall will help deter border jumpers and tracking visa over stayers will help curb that problem.
That's untrue. This article says that 66% of illegals are visa overstayers vs border crossers.
Visa overstayers would be easier to deport since the USCIS should have their addresses. ICE just has to show up with the cuffs.
A lot of the border crossers are invisible and impossible to track.
I clicked on the link and the article doesn't state how they arrived at those figures. They referenced a source but the source doesn't provide proof of those figures either. As a matter of fact it was apparent that the second source is biased because they claimed that walls won't deter illegal entry when they actually do and I will provide proof below.
At any rate there are still many that are border jumpers and what I said is that most who are here illegally are border jumpers even if that trend is changing to visa over stayers. The point is that we need to address both problems not just one of them. The good walls are a deterrant and better to deter border jumpers before they get into our country where they are harder to weed out and much more expensive to do so. We are only talking about the 700 miles of wall on the most porous areas of the border already approved by congress, not the entire border.
Visa over stayers just need to be tracked and monitored better. At least we know who they but we sure don't know who the border jumpers are. They could be migrants looking for work and benefits, criminals, terrorists or drug runners.
Make it a felony to employ illegal aliens. Then lock up for 10-15 years a few big shot businessmen who employ them to show we aren’t screwing around. That will greatly reduce the incentive to illegal aliens and if they can’t get work they won’t come.
And that would be a great deal cheaper than building a wall and border security could be on a cheaper level, more as with Canada.
Not all illegal entrants are looking for work. Certainly, criminals, terrorists and the drug cartels aren't, thus the wall. I agree though, make it a felony for employers who "knowingly" hire illegal aliens. E-verify should be the law of the land.
Unless we deny their kids our birthright citizenship and benefits ending the job incentive alone won't do it all on it's own. The good walls are very effective and I posted links under another post proving it. The 700 miles already approved by congress back in 2006 is a lot cheaper than the over $100 billion a year that illegal aliens cost us.
I clicked on the link and the article doesn't state how they arrived at those figures. They referenced a source but the source doesn't provide proof of those figures either. As a matter of fact it was apparent that the second source is biased because they claimed that walls won't deter illegal entry when they actually do and I will provide proof below.
At any rate there are still many that are border jumpers and what I said is that most who are here illegally are border jumpers even if that trend is changing to visa over stayers. The point is that we need to address both problems not just one of them. The good walls are a deterrant and better to deter border jumpers before they get into our country where they are harder to weed out and much more expensive to do so. We are only talking about the 700 miles of wall on the most porous areas of the border already approved by congress, not the entire border.
Visa over stayers just need to be tracked and monitored better. At least we know who they but we sure don't know who the border jumpers are. They could be migrants looking for work and benefits, criminals, terrorists or drug runners.
It is of course obvious That OG does not understand how the 9/11 terrorists got in. If one was really interested in protecting the US would you not fix the route of the most effective terrorists first?
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