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Better built core is subjective.
More cohesive... yes I already addressed that in my last post.
If Houston was able to pull off the trench and cap it would be no contest as Houston would be able to join neighborhoods on the east, west and South while Dallas has the huge flood plain to contend with.
Houston has no more suburban shopping centers than DFW. They are both highly designed around cars apart from a few select areas.
Tidy?...Houston lacks zoning, but the most urban cities I have visited are disorganized. London is a great example. Very haphazard.
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I disagree with your last statement in part. I think LA is dense to grow so fast without water solutions. Or did you mean different kind of dense? Sorry couldn't resist. I think LA and Phx and Denver and perhaps SF are like LA this way so its not unique from some cities but is like several sunbelt cities mentioned.
I meant just straight up density. It is often compared to Phoenix, Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, Charlotte but looking at these stats, it's not.
I don't think anyone has said DFW is more urban, I think DFW may have more walkable areas than Houston though.
Like was stated earlier, I think it's the core of Dallas that gives off this feel. It's more organized than anything compared to Houston. It seems though the density just comes in waves in Dallas though and doesn't really pick back up to what it was near the core whereas in Houston, it looks a bit more consistent.
Dallas does have a better built core in a cohesive, walkable layout. Houston has a lot more suburban type shopping centers and restaurants scattered throughout. Dallas is also more tidy and organized.
I agree with this having live in Dallas for a couple years and spending a lot of time in Houston.
Better built core is subjective.
More cohesive... yes I already addressed that in my last post.
If Houston was able to pull off the trench and cap it would be no contest as Houston would be able to join neighborhoods on the east, west and South while Dallas has the huge flood plain to contend with.
Houston has no more suburban shopping centers than DFW. They are both highly designed around cars apart from a few select areas.
Tidy?...Houston lacks zoning, but the most urban cities I have visited are disorganized. London is a great example. Very haphazard.
1) Yes, subjective, but evident.
2) South and West of the Trinity will only be connected by future park space. I’ll take what we have over Houston’s flooding.
3) I wasn’t comparing DFW to Houston in regard to suburban shopping centers and restaurants, I was comparing Central Dallas to Inner Loop Houston and yes, Houston had a lot more and more random stuff.
4) London is a very urban city, Houston is like just random. Dallas is a more tidy city. It just makes more sense how the neighborhoods flow.
It’s not that Baltimore is necessarily “small”… it’s more so Philly, DC & Boston are all just massive cities relative to it, let alone NYC.
Without seeing that list, I would have guessed Baltimore to have more than Las Vegas and Houston. Or at least be up there with Seattle because obviously, outside of Baltimore City, the suburbs of the Mid Atlantic do get very spread out. But I do get the logic of what you're saying. Baltimore MSA is only 2.7 million while the others are at least over 5 million ( I think Boston MSA is 5 million).
Without seeing that list, I would have guessed Baltimore to have more than Las Vegas and Houston. Or at least be up there with Seattle because obviously, outside of Baltimore City, the suburbs of the Mid Atlantic do get very spread out. But I do get the logic of what you're saying. Baltimore MSA is only 2.7 million while the others are at least over 5 million ( I think Boston MSA is 5 million).
Baltimore’s MSA is a shade under 2.9 million as of 2021 so it is slowly growing. But what Baltimore excels in, has always been its inner most historic 20-30 sq. miles. Once you get outside of that “ring” density starts to drop off quickly. Despite Annapolis, Columbia & Towson being in its metro none are dense enough for 10,000ppm tracts which also hurts it in this regard.
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