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Old 01-06-2015, 02:39 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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Color is not irrelevant to the thread because body types are at least slightly linked to ethnicity. For what it's worth, the narrowest waists I've ever seen on non-anorexic, non-waist-trained women have been on black women.
I've seen many different body types in all ethnicities, it doesn't pertain to the thread title.

OP has been criticized throughout the thread, bringing it in as a last resort.

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Old 01-06-2015, 02:43 PM
 
Location: all over the place (figuratively)
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Um, while maybe all body types exist in every group, Samoans demonstrate that ethnicity can affect body type. Anyway, it's her thread, so she can bring race into it if she likes, as long as it's not inflammatory. Food for thought: if mainstream Barbie were black, would her measurements be considered very unrealistic?
 
Old 01-06-2015, 03:02 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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Um, while maybe all body types exist in every group, Samoans demonstrate that ethnicity can affect body type. Anyway, it's her thread, so she can bring race into it if she likes, as long as it's not inflammatory. Food for thought: if mainstream Barbie were black, would her measurements be considered very unrealistic?
If you look at responses among this thread of posters, yeah. Barbie's figure is stylized and doesn't fit the image of todays figure, some women are lucky enough to be blessed genetically.

I have tons of women's vintage clothing, smaller sized women were the norm.
 
Old 01-06-2015, 03:25 PM
 
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You know, unless a thin woman with a Barbie body type is wearing quite fitted or revealing clothes, a person probably wouldn't consciously identify the shape in public and so it might seem almost non-existent. While shopping yesterday, I was drawn to a 6' tall woman yesterday with a nice face and figure, and only when I read the Julie Newmar post and found her height listed as 5'11" did I realize I'd probably seen a real-life Barbie.
I already left links saying barbs wouldn't be that tall.
 
Old 01-06-2015, 03:28 PM
 
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Color is irrelevant to the thread and makes no difference. I'm not sure what to say about posts calling you out as body image disordered.

If you prefer to be thinner as opposed to fuller figure and wear a corset, own it with no apologies. Its okay. Healthy, regardless of size and body shape should always be preferred.
No actually cultural background has to do with it this is why you are implying skinny is more ideal and assuming I want to wear a corset when I never said that.

I'm not black but culturally where I come from socially curves are celebrated. I'm skinny but that's natural not something I chose to be if I had a choice I'd be thick. But that's not the subject. A waist that small is sickening to me just because I pointed out that it isn't that special to have such a waist doesn't mean I want to be that. I was simply saying her dimensions aren't out of the norm for a skinny woman. Nothing about what's better. Maybe you should stay on topic?
 
Old 01-06-2015, 03:39 PM
 
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I don't know how old you are, but I was alive when Barbie was invented and women were NOT wearing corsets. A girdle maybe (the precursor to Spanx for you youngsters), but not corsets. Very few women on earth have comparable waist sizes to Barbie if they are also comparable to her height and chest measurement.
They may have not im 21 but I looked at vintage beauties of that time that did wear corsets which is what I'm basing it off of.
 
Old 01-06-2015, 03:44 PM
 
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You're right corsets date back to 1800 - 1930s, thats been debated with OP. If you think corsets styles aren't popular today among the younger generation, you'd be incorrect.

If the general population of women weren't size 12 -14, spanks wouldn't be needed.
Back to what I said originally. Many vintage beauties did wear corsets.
 
Old 01-06-2015, 03:49 PM
 
Location: New Yawk
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I can easily name a dozen other celebrities with amazing figures, who all talk about wearing Spanx. Point being, virtually all women have a figure flaw they want to hide, not just those whose size is in the double-digits. Prior to the advent of control-top panty hose, shapers were considered as essential undergarments for women, regardless of body type.
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Gwyneth Paltrow doesn't need spanxs, for petes sake. Now theres a real case of a body image disorder. I always thought the gal was bit off though.
 
Old 01-06-2015, 03:53 PM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Americans would rather make their dolls fat, than lose weight.
Sad, but true.

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I don't know how old you are, but I was alive when Barbie was invented and women were NOT wearing corsets. A girdle maybe (the precursor to Spanx for you youngsters), but not corsets. Very few women on earth have comparable waist sizes to Barbie if they are also comparable to her height and chest measurement.
I don't know why so many posters believe women don't wear corsets. Corset companies are thriving, and corset wearers such as myself buy them, as well as girdles. I'm not fat, I like the sexy look of a corset, and I like the way a girdle smoothes me out when I'm wearing a snug fitting dress. As an aside, I think Spanx girdles are overrated and they don't work as well as the Maidenform and other brands, plus they're more expensive.

I suppose Jukes and other posters think this because corset wearers are not as visible as before. However, I assure you, we do exist, and it's not just about waist training. Also, waist training with a corset is ineffective without also eating healthy. Waist training over time via corsetting helps give the woman more curves and the hourglass shape than just diet and exercise. As for Barbie, I believe she got her figure with tightlaced corsetting, diet, exercise, but mostly a man's fertile imagination (among other things).
 
Old 01-06-2015, 03:54 PM
 
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I've seen many different body types in all ethnicities, it doesn't pertain to the thread title.

OP has been criticized throughout the thread, bringing it in as a last resort.
No it seems some are a bit ignorant to the fact that some cultures don't put much value in a slimmer figure. I brought it up explaining that being slim is not a good thing necessarily. To me it's more about curves.

So I don't try to be skinny nor do I want to to wear a corset. I would far rather be thick. I was explaining basically why I'd rather not be skinny.
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