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Old 01-05-2015, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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The Barbie critics have entirely missed the point. She is not intended as a representation of the normal human female. She is in effect a goddess, and goddesses have always had preurnatural endowment of the bosom. There are thousands of years of culture and semiotics to confirm this.

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The Barbie critics are tantamount to saying that Batman and Superman are not realistic depictions of the average male. Of course they are not.

 
Old 01-05-2015, 05:46 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I couldn't find support for my assertion about the women in beauty pageants. Older pictures are hard to find and I think bikinis weren't common in the major contests until recently. The only Barbie I found was http://img.spokeo.com/public/900-600...2004_04_02.jpg
Not a teenager there, but doesn't she look like one? Barbie is supposed to be early 20's, right? These days it's probably a rare shape beyond the teens, and I believe it was always rare after 25 or having kids. My guess is that earlier puberty and unhealthy lifestyle (even the ones raised right are likely to indulge in college) are contributing, in addition to the near-death of corseting. Additionally, if Barbie was based on a European doll, that makes sense, for at least among Slavic women, a tiny waist seems to be a long tradition. The crazy women who try to remake themselves into living Barbies almost always are Eastern European.
Beauty pageant women have never had big busts. They've been more or less an hourglass.
 
Old 01-05-2015, 05:47 PM
 
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If Barbie had a corset on, then why wasn't it molded on like Ken's underwear?

Damn those undies on Ken anyways! As a young girl (before Google) I always wondered what the heck boys had that was so darn special it got to be covered up
 
Old 01-05-2015, 05:52 PM
 
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The Barbie critics have entirely missed the point. She is not intended as a representation of the normal human female. She is in effect a goddess, and goddesses have always had preurnatural endowment of the bosom. There are thousands of years of culture and semiotics to confirm this.

https://www.google.com/search?q=fert...2F%3B337%3B450

The Barbie critics are tantamount to saying that Batman and Superman are not realistic depictions of the average male. Of course they are not.
Those are far from Barbie. Those are apple-shaped women that look post-menopausal, oddly. Obese proportions.
 
Old 01-05-2015, 06:14 PM
 
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Beauty pageant women have never had big busts. They've been more or less an hourglass.
The hourglass shape inherently usually has big breasts.... You can look on most body shape calculators the bust is what's taken into consideration. The bust has to be big in comparison to the waist line.
 
Old 01-05-2015, 06:15 PM
 
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If Barbie had a corset on, then why wasn't it molded on like Ken's underwear?

Damn those undies on Ken anyways! As a young girl (before Google) I always wondered what the heck boys had that was so darn special it got to be covered up
I thought that too lol.
 
Old 01-05-2015, 06:18 PM
 
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Those are far from Barbie. Those are apple-shaped women that look post-menopausal, oddly. Obese proportions.
barbie would be a busyy hourglass not an apple. I think the thing people say very unrealistic is the extremely small waist.
 
Old 01-05-2015, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Who cares. It's a doll. Ever seen how ridiculous the proportions are on the dolls boys play with (or, sorry that would be action figures)? Yeah. You know why nobody makes a fuss about it? Because they're dolls.
 
Old 01-05-2015, 06:29 PM
 
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My daughter has a very small waist. I did, too, before I had children. I also had perky, well, you know. Such is life.
 
Old 01-05-2015, 06:33 PM
 
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The hourglass shape inherently usually has big breasts.... You can look on most body shape calculators the bust is what's taken into consideration. The bust has to be big in comparison to the waist line.
It's been posted on this sub-forum many times that it's the shoulders mainly, in comparison to the hips, that create the hourglass. Not all hourglass figures are large-busted. People have come to think of them that way, but that's not how an hourglass is defined. It's about shoulder width compared to hip width (and, obviously, a small waist).
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