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Old 06-12-2011, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Northside Of Jacksonville
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Wow. What a bunch of fat beer drinking Peter Griffins around here. Again, I am 6' 1" tall and I know that if my waist gets larger than 32 inches I would consider myself fat (i.e., fat = need to lose body fat %). Everything I own is 30-32. If I were bigger I would not be happy with myself in terms of my health/fitness. The MOST important measurement is waist/stomach when it comes to health/fitness and I want to always keep mine as low as possible.
This is moot, considering I don't drink beer and find beer repulsive. Again, I lift heavy weights and want to get down to a 36 and bodyfat down to 5% (which I'm well on my way to doing considering my regimen). Once I get there, I'm good to go. Genetically, it's not possible for some people to be a 30-32 size and be in shape. As long as you have a reasonable level of fitness and are pushing yourself in your workouts, it shouldn't matter if your big.
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Old 06-12-2011, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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Genetically, it's not possible for some people to be a 30-32 size and be in shape. As long as you have a reasonable level of fitness and are pushing yourself in your workouts, it shouldn't matter if your big.
If you have no fat around your middle, are you really going to be much larger than a 32?
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Old 06-12-2011, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Brandon, FL
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If you have no fat around your middle, are you really going to be much larger than a 32?
Arnold Schwarzenneger's waist measurement was 34" in his Mr. Olympia years - and that was standing in a flexed pose (with his abs sucked in). He was pretty much "no-fat" in those days. He is/was 6'2" tall.

Here is a military thesis written about waist to height ratios that suggests a waist measurement of 50% of your height is optimal:
http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc...c=GetTRDoc.pdf

Body composition, height, and history of physical activity play roles in what your "optimal" waist size should be. The waist-to-height ratio is also one way to judge what "optimal" might be. It is when you start feeling self-conscious about wearing your shirts tucked-in that your waistline measurement matters.
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Old 06-12-2011, 11:59 PM
 
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Wow. What a bunch of fat beer drinking Peter Griffins around here. Again, I am 6' 1" tall and I know that if my waist gets larger than 32 inches I would consider myself fat (i.e., fat = need to lose body fat %). Everything I own is 30-32. If I were bigger I would not be happy with myself in terms of my health/fitness. The MOST important measurement is waist/stomach when it comes to health/fitness and I want to always keep mine as low as possible.
Say wat?

I'm 6 ft and when I was running 40 miles a week and being paid to work out all day (Marines) I was a 34 (And still am)

FAT?

I've got JUST a touch at the moment (Can't run anymore and Gorged the last 2 months... back to eating right, it'll be gone in a few more days, takes me less than 2 weeks to 'get back')
-Meaning I can't see all of my 6 pack, just some at the moment.

But going back to active duty... you couldn't have found anyone in better shape than us!

Might want to rethink that, skinny does NOT = health!
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Old 06-13-2011, 03:56 AM
 
Location: Northside Of Jacksonville
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If you have no fat around your middle, are you really going to be much larger than a 32?
Maybe, maybe not depending on your body composition and genetics. If you lift heavy weights and have no fat, you can still have a waist greater than 32-34". Especially on squats/deadlifts, which target the lower body because you're lifting with your legs/quads. Some men who lift heavy are predisposed to put on size, which for some can be a good/bad thing.
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:47 AM
 
Location: US
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Ideal range formula:
Whtr: The New Determinant Of Health Risk | LIVESTRONG.COM
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Old 06-13-2011, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Say wat?

I'm 6 ft and when I was running 40 miles a week and being paid to work out all day (Marines) I was a 34 (And still am)

FAT?

I've got JUST a touch at the moment (Can't run anymore and Gorged the last 2 months... back to eating right, it'll be gone in a few more days, takes me less than 2 weeks to 'get back')
-Meaning I can't see all of my 6 pack, just some at the moment.

But going back to active duty... you couldn't have found anyone in better shape than us!

Might want to rethink that, skinny does NOT = health!
I agree. What you can do is a better indicator of fitness than what you look like.
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Old 06-13-2011, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Northside Of Jacksonville
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Even the WHTR doesn't take into account the high muscle mass some people posess. A lot of these formulas are flaw, period. If you feel the changes in your body, that's what counts.
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Old 06-13-2011, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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I agree. What you can do is a better indicator of fitness than what you look like.
Depends what it is you can "do". If you can swim, bike, or run quickly and continuously over long distances that's probably a much better indicator of health than merely being able to lift a bunch of weight. I'd consider a good triathlete to be much healthier than a heavy weightlifter.
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Old 06-13-2011, 09:23 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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depending on age/fitness...
the target should be close to "an 8 inch drop"

40" chest = 32" waist
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