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Old 01-25-2020, 03:58 PM
 
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What I am thinking. All those vids and what not is just propaganda by whoever is in charge of EU.

Turkey's Erdogan is constantly threatening to send 2 million refugees but he will not do it for several reasons mostly: because the EU will not give him $ if he does it and rather because he prefers to keep the refugees in Turkey as hostages since Turkey is still fighting in Syria and many of the refugees are captured fighters of the opposition, it makes little sense for Turkey to do it in the next 5-10 years.
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Old 01-25-2020, 04:34 PM
 
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Bulgaria is one of the poorest countries in Europe
Corruption is very high, and entry into the European Union has not solved this problem.
But the most serious problem in the country is the population decline. The country is bleeding. People leave the country because of poverty and corruption. Those who stay in the country have no children because they have bad jobs.

According to the United Nations, Bulgaria is the country most rapidly loses population in the world.
All countries have regions in growth and regions in decline. Bulgaria is a complete country in decline.





The following forecast for the future population is an official estimate of the National Statistical Institute of Bulgaria.

Year Population
2015 7,159,819
2020 6,950,436
2025 6,734,989
2030 6,519,217
2035 6,311,454
2040 6,115,526
2045 5,929,267
2050 5,748,061
2055 5,567,060
2060 5,384,040

In 1989 the population was 9 million
It's another one of the countries where the IMF imposed economic shock therapy in the 90's. They forced the government to divest itself of state-run industries and sell them to foreign investors. It's the same result of a currency collapse, very high unemployment, and hyperinflation.
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Old 01-25-2020, 04:38 PM
 
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It's another one of the countries where the IMF imposed economic shock therapy in the 90's. They forced the government to divest itself of state-run industries and sell them to foreign investors. It's the same result of a currency collapse, very high unemployment, and hyperinflation.

True and actually some of these things happened many years ago, if you happen to be economic history nerd or just can't find anything better to do:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhan_Videnov


He was the first and unfortunately not the last communist PM after 1989 to run the country but it was bad enough during his time to name it a 'currency collapse'.
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Old 01-25-2020, 05:17 PM
 
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It's another one of the countries where the IMF imposed economic shock therapy in the 90's. They forced the government to divest itself of state-run industries and sell them to foreign investors. It's the same result of a currency collapse, very high unemployment, and hyperinflation.

That's what they force Ukraine to do now too - to go the same rout I think.

And that's what the "Antidote" ( the ppl in the video I posted here) were warning Ukrainians back in 2013, using Bulgaria as example.
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Old 01-25-2020, 05:42 PM
 
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This thread can be a good example of how past perceptions can affect present-day views when the subject of topic is unknown (here - Bulgaria).



It's either communism, eu immigration, ukraine, brexit/"farage was right" (surprised no one mentioned that one yet...), or the refugee crysis. Each of which is past news with no current effect on the country, assuming of course things like the refugee crisis or Ukraine ever had any effect or meaning.
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Old 01-25-2020, 06:23 PM
 
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This thread can be a good example of how past perceptions can affect present-day views when the subject of topic is unknown (here - Bulgaria).



It's either communism, eu immigration, ukraine, brexit/"farage was right" (surprised no one mentioned that one yet...), or the refugee crysis. Each of which is past news with no current effect on the country, assuming of course things like the refugee crisis or Ukraine ever had any effect or meaning.

Right.
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Old 01-26-2020, 03:57 AM
 
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Right.

I should've said effects that are no longer felt/acting/important. The "fallout" from communism was felt in the 90s which is why I even gave the link about the Jan Videnov government from 1996, we're now 20 years later.
Brexit was disastrous prediction about "29 million bulgarians and romanians" and even Brexit is 3 years old.



How is Ukraine related to Bulgaria is something only Russia sees, even in Bulgaria people consider Ukraine = Russia so the whole "Eastern europe betrayed us" is just story that suits Putin or Russia and their regional views (as Obama called russia 'regional power' correctly).



No one has given recent population predictions yet or talks about present or near future developments in Bulgaria (such as adopting the Euro, how we have one of the best metros in the world, how the population of the capital has doubled in a decade, how countries like America, Ukraine, Mexico have several times higher homicide rate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate, or how the HDI is higher than all of our neighboors with the exception of Greece: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...elopment_Index (over Romania, Turkey, Macedonia, Serbia).


These are present data that matters, If most posters in this thread prefer to live in the past I'll live in the present.
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Old 01-26-2020, 04:46 AM
 
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Also here are examples of what was built during communism when according to Anhytuk and Erasure things were "better":









And here are recent developments:

















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Old 01-26-2020, 04:52 AM
 
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Also this thread was started by the dissappeared OP suspiciously days after Bulgaria expelled 2 russian diplomates:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UedIMX1z9vI
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Old 01-26-2020, 07:20 AM
 
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Also the "it was better during communism" buildings are even more problematic because:


1 - they have limited timespan of just 30 years and soon will collapse;


2 - the biggest travesty of keeping a statue of russian tsar in front of the National Assembly: should be removed, blown up or anything, I was also looking to find from google closer shot of the sea resort picture from above since it has a bridge leading to the boats where there are statues (can't find the best english word...busts?) of Bulgarian national heroes only with their quotes, not russians or others standing in front of the national assembly with giant statue.



3 - And of course there are the outdated nuclear facilities from communism, aka like Chernobil.
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