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Old 10-17-2008, 08:46 AM
 
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Just about ever license requirement I have ever seen for trades requires in the field time. HVAC for example here you need 4000 hours. 2000 can be in school but at least 2000 needs to be working under a licensed professional.


Ohio requirements to be able to get a license:
To apply for a plumbing, electrical, HVAC, hydronics, or refrigeration license, you need at least five years of experience in the field. You also have to be a U.S. citizen and have never been convicted of a felony. For information, contact:
http://www.contractors-license.org/oh/Ohio.html

It would be silly to think someone can get 5 years exp. in the field to get a license without being able to legally do work without that license.

ALAN W NEWELL
PL-0000032957

ALAN W NEWELL
HY-0000032957
https://www.comapps.ohio.gov/dic/dic...p/default.aspx

The owner clearly has a license. The worker clearly requires none until he works for himself doing the actual work and design. This is the most blantant case of media bias I have seen this go around with the elections. They saw Obama stumble with a horrible response that let everyone know what he is really advocating and the media threw out the golden parachute by vilifying "Joe". This is also clear evidence that all the "fact check" BS that all the sudden every paper has taken up (like before they didn't need to fact check I guess) is still biased BS. Once the bias is shown on TV you can bet "Joe" will suddenly have a felony they forgot to find out about that totally discredits him and destroys his life, family and career. But hey it was just a simple question and since there are 30 million small business they might have been curious as to the answer. Even if only 14% would ever be effected. It's the American dream to "make it" not to lie down when the government says so. Anyone who thinks government should get bigger doesn't understand why thye wanted to get away from big government and start their own thing.


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Old 10-17-2008, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
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Originally Posted by BigJon3475 View Post
Just about ever license requirement I have ever seen for trades requires in the field time. HVAC for example here you need 4000 hours. 2000 can be in school but at least 2000 needs to be working under a licensed professional.


Ohio requirements to be able to get a license:
To apply for a plumbing, electrical, HVAC, hydronics, or refrigeration license, you need at least five years of experience in the field. You also have to be a U.S. citizen and have never been convicted of a felony. For information, contact:
Ohio

It would be silly to think someone can get 5 years exp. in the field to get a license without being able to legally do work without that license.

ALAN W NEWELL
PL-0000032957

ALAN W NEWELL
HY-0000032957
https://www.comapps.ohio.gov/dic/dic...p/default.aspx

The owner clearly has a license. The worker clearly requires none until he works for himself doing the actual work and design. This is the most blantant case of media bias I have seen this go around with the elections. They saw Obama stumble with a horrible response that let everyone know what he is really advocating and the media threw out the golden parachute by vilifying "Joe". This is also clear evidence that all the "fact check" BS that all the sudden every paper has taken up (like before they didn't need to fact check I guess) is still biased BS. Once the bias is shown on TV you can bet "Joe" will suddenly have a felony they forgot to find out about that totally discredits him and destroys his life, family and career. But hey it was just a simple question and since there are 30 million small business they might have been curious as to the answer. Even if only 14% would ever be effected. It's the American dream to "make it" not to lie down when the government says so. Anyone who thinks government should get bigger doesn't understand why thye wanted to get away from big government and start their own thing.


Thanks for the research. So the guy doesn't need a license.
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Old 10-17-2008, 09:19 AM
 
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Thanks for the research. So the guy doesn't need a license.
Yeah, but don't let that stop you from helping smear him! I never met a liberal who let facts get in the way.
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Old 10-17-2008, 09:27 AM
 
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let me tell you something.........

The nations financial crisis didn't just happen over night. The Replubican mind set, In my opinion, is responsible for bringing this country down.
Capitalism is fine if it is regulated. Apparently, you can't trust the people behind the money in this country. They got too greed and stole from the people.
Trickle down effect didn't happen.
Now it is time to trickle up.
The people are angry and righly so. If it doesn't get straightened out, I foresee a revolution.
Explain how it is responsible? Did they not attempt to point out problems with the Freddie/Fannie issue in 2004? I watched C Span at the time, did you?

I am not saying Republicans are not dirty in some things, but to blame it all on them shows extreme ignorance of the issues. Go read the committee proposals concerning the financing issue. Look up who blocked it, look up who accused those questioning the issue as being greedy racists who wanted to keep poor people from getting homes. Look up who made the most money in the management of the deal.

Look up the statements by those leaders who basically said "housing is a zero risk investment, there are no problems".

If you want a revolution, then you had BETTER darn well be sure you are fighting it for the right reasons. It would be a tragedy to see people give their lives out of ignorance of the issues.

We need changes, you are correct. The answer isn't found in either party as they all are swirling the drain with their corruption and abuse. If you think Obama is the answer, than I can only say you need to remove those rose tinted glasses, because you are obviously not seeing clearly.
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Old 10-17-2008, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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I have a Brother in Ohio who has own a HVAC business for over 23 years. He has a fleet of 5 trucks. I think that before a trained employee can be assigned to a job on their own they need to be licensed.
I passed the question on to him. I'll post the answer.

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Old 10-17-2008, 11:14 AM
 
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I have a Brother in Ohio who has own a HVAC business for over 23 years. He has a fleet of 5 trucks. I think that before a trained employee can be assigned to a job on their own they need to be licensed.
I passed the question on to him. I'll post the answer.
Have him post a link to the statute also.

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Old 10-17-2008, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Would Jose the Plumber have ever gotten this much attention?
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:32 AM
 
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Would Jose the Plumber have ever gotten this much attention?
I think he'd receive more because the Dems are, as far as I know, expected to get the brown vote. Jose would be an even better prize for the Repubs.
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Back to Joe:

In order for Joe to buy a business which is generating a $250k profit, falls in the 4-1 to 6-1 price/revenue category -- BEFORE accounting for equipment.

Meaning Joe has access to $1.5 - 2.5 million ... cash. And, he would have ponied up $250k of his own cash to get it. In this credit market.

I find it hard to believe that Joe has access to $2 million; he can't even manage to pay his income taxes on time.

Yet one more con job by today's Republican party.
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:46 AM
 
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Back to Joe:

In order for Joe to buy a business which is generating a $250k profit, falls in the 4-1 to 6-1 price/revenue category -- BEFORE accounting for equipment.

Meaning Joe has access to $1.5 - 2.5 million ... cash. And, he would have ponied up $250k of his own cash to get it. In this credit market.

I find it hard to believe that Joe has access to $2 million; he can't even manage to pay his income taxes on time.

Yet one more con job by today's Republican party.
The issue isn't whether he can or can't make it happen. The issue isn't whether you or I approve or disapprove of what he's doing and how he's doing it. The issue is whether or notObama's belief will penalize Joe for assuming the risk and hardship in attaining his dream to the point that the dream is no longer worth chasing.

Hope is the heart of freedom. When Barack crushes hope for people who are willing to throw themselves against the status quo because he wants incompetent people rewarded, freedom means little.
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