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Old 10-04-2010, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Define made it. A lot of guys can make it and they haven't earned it. Heres some examples.

Paris Hilton (thanks Mom and Dad...... and those who want to eliminate the estate tax)

George W. Bush (AWOL.....C student at Yale......... really think he's earned being president?)

Descendants of Henry Ford

Kennedys

Anyone who got a free ride through school and a nice job or connections from mommy and daddy. Thats not working for it or earning it. Thats being born into a lucky position.
G.W. Bush was never AWOL. He received an honorable discharge with the rank of 1st Lt. That would not happen with someone who was AWOL.
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Old 10-04-2010, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Probably the most idiotic question ever asked on these forums.
Do a little research. America's healthcare system is one of the
WORST in the world. Highly overrated by the same propagandists
who gave us "Mission Accomplished!" several years ago, when the
death toll was just beginning in Iraq.

You people are such TOOLS!!!!!
LMAO Try again. There is nothing wrong with the actual care. It is tops in the world. Responsiveness” measures a variety of factors such as speed of service, choice of doctors, and amenities.
The nations with the most responsive health systems are the United States, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Denmark, Germany, Japan, Canada, Norway, Netherlands and Sweden.

Depending on the type of operation or care. Some people come here for the quality and availability. Others leave in order to receive inexpensive care elsewhere.

Our problem is the over reaching government that has driven the costs sky high.
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Old 10-04-2010, 02:35 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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I'm Voting Republican

I'm sold!!!!!!!!!!!!
What did P.T. Barnum say? ..." There's a Republican born every minute".
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Old 10-07-2010, 04:39 AM
 
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Our problem is the over reaching government that has driven the costs sky high.

Wrong. The problem is too many Insurers and their greed and citizens that are clueless.

If the American HC system is so great why are US infant mortality rates horrid?
Because of ACCESS.
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Old 10-07-2010, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Dem or Repub? My word association is Dem=Spend, Repub=Lie.
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Old 10-07-2010, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Wrong. The problem is too many Insurers and their greed and citizens that are clueless.

If the American HC system is so great why are US infant mortality rates horrid?
Because of ACCESS.
Look to the illegals who boost the number.
We have a higher percentage of low weight babies compared to Canada. HOWEVER, the survival rate of our low weight babies is higher than Canadas survival rate. Why is that? I say it is because of the actual care.
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Old 11-03-2010, 02:02 PM
 
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Default Don't make me laugh

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LMAO Try again. There is nothing wrong with the actual care. It is tops in the world. Responsiveness” measures a variety of factors such as speed of service, choice of doctors, and amenities.
The nations with the most responsive health systems are the United States, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Denmark, Germany, Japan, Canada, Norway, Netherlands and Sweden.

Depending on the type of operation or care. Some people come here for the quality and availability. Others leave in order to receive inexpensive care elsewhere.

Our problem is the over reaching government that has driven the costs sky high.
Been in an American hospital lately? I recently spent time in one of the much lauded teaching hospitals that's routinely rated in the Top 10 every year. Every time they moved me to a different room or technician they'd ask me about my meds, and EVERY time they did they had the wrong, outdated list. No matter how many times I updated them, the info never seemed to make it past the nurse/tech/doctor into their computer system.

I also never got more than an hour's straight sleep because the nurses, doctors and cleaning crew gave a rat's ass about keeping the noise down, despite the fact that it was a heart unit. One doctor in particular just loved the sound of his voice, and would boom out every little tidbit on his midnight rounds as if he was the star of Hamlet in an amphitheatre.

Ever have a six month delay in getting treatment because the hospital administrators couldn't get on the same page with the insurance company to approve a simple test within a reasonable amount of time? Or have an important test canceled by a bureaucratic administrator simply because she had the power to second guess the prescribing physician and override his order for the test without first consulting him?

Ever have a relative rushed to a hospital with a severe advanced heart condition, and be told that her regular physician had been prescribing a slew of wrong prescriptions for what ails her?

Ever get caught in the daisychain of "referrals" from one doctor to another until the fourth one refers you back to the first and uyou realize they're all just milking the system?

Ever have to wait three hours in a doctor's waiting room because it was filled with dozens of patients, each of whom would wait several hours, then be treated for a few minutes, because the doctor was obviously more concerned with quantity of business than quality of care?

I've witnessed all of these horrors and more, either personally, through relatives, or friends. One person I know literally had to call 911 to get himself removed from a nursing home when they insisted on administering the wrong drugs!

If you have had only great service then I guess you must be a Congressman or extremely wealthy (although I did have a very wealthy friend tell me a horror story about a doctor who blew off an important operation until they were tracked down, yes, playing golf!)

I'm not sure whether to laugh or throw up when I hear people rave about America's awesome healthcare, and deride foreign systems. Like everything else in this country, healthcare is simply a Big Business with the interests of corporations and business practitioners placed well ahead of the patients'.
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